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From Vikings Frustration To Greatest Sports Movies
We start early, set up a winter golf routine, and then let loose on the Vikings: penalties, play calling, and the roughing the passer mess. The bracket crowns Remember The Titans after a run packed with upsets, nostalgia, and Disney magic.
• winter golf setup, swing mechanics and muscle memory
• vikings run-game identity, O-line discipline and penalties
• roughing the passer rules, blindside calls and officiating power
• roster age, patience with a young QB and coaching choices
• NBA in-season courts, high school dances and local flavor
• deer permits, buck conservation and bow-season talk
• news fatigue, shutdown gridlock and wealth concentration
• respect across differences without burning friendships
• sports movie bracket to a final: Miracle vs Remember The Titans
• next week’s live-action Disney top five plan
• business updates, rentals, merch and new site links
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I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a great hockey team the Soviets have. Screw this is your time. Go up there and take it out.
SPEAKER_01:That's gross. Well, welcome back. We made it to another Sunday evening consecutively. Third in a row. Third in a row. Third Sunday in a row. Third Sunday in a row, we've been recording, which is good. Trying to stay on a schedule here.
SPEAKER_02:Thank God it's fucking early.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Decided I wanted to get this shit done with early enough to where I can go to bed earlier. I gotta get my the rest of my basketball stuff organized since we start tomorrow.
SPEAKER_02:I have to pick up a sauna tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01:That's kind of what I figured. Where's the other one at?
SPEAKER_02:Both of them are north. North?
SPEAKER_01:Brit? Or like North Cook.
SPEAKER_02:I know who this is. They're not north of Cook. They're I think considered Cook, but they're not. They're like one is one is over north of Side Lake and then the interest area? Further Furthermore. Like w like Township.
SPEAKER_01:I'll show you. Like towards the junction? Yes. Oh, I know where that is. On one? Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Actually, one is on 65 South. Off of one 65 South, and then the other one is right off of one.
SPEAKER_01:Nice.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, if I could tow both at the same time, it would have been really convenient.
SPEAKER_01:So I suppose go there, come back, and then go there.
SPEAKER_02:Because they're they're like I don't know, twenty minutes away from each other.
SPEAKER_01:So instead of going forty minutes, you had to do whatever do.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That sucks.
SPEAKER_02:That's all right. No, it's all good. That's part of the process.
SPEAKER_01:See if your brother can come pull something.
SPEAKER_02:We got he doesn't have a vehicle that can pull anything. We got I I think I know this person. I've seen two mugshots of people that I recognize now.
SPEAKER_01:Really?
SPEAKER_02:But I don't know who they actually are.
SPEAKER_01:Are you on the Connie website?
SPEAKER_02:I am on Facebook. White Lakes Man charged with the murder of Hibbing.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah, the one that shot that 24-year-old on his birthday.
SPEAKER_02:Daniel Dale. And then the other one was somebody that got charged with a DUI in Duluth. He looked younger.
SPEAKER_01:We are not younger.
SPEAKER_02:We are not younger. We are not younger. So yeah, you uh it's it's a nice early evening. We wanna get the recording in and I'm gonna continue to clean my garage when you leave. Just some small things. I got the uh I got a good setup for the golf net.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's gonna go against the door kind of.
SPEAKER_03:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:And we're gonna hit that way. But we're gonna try and fix your fucking swing over the winter.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Do at least once a week.
SPEAKER_00:I'm done with that.
SPEAKER_02:Just to keep your muscles and it's all ball striking. I mean, you're not gonna be able to see where the ball is going, but you can feel how well you hit the ball, right?
SPEAKER_01:So just when I was doing anything here the other night, it it felt really good. Yeah. There's a couple of them that I know I would have it was good contact.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, and then there's you can tell if you know most of them were pretty good and pretty well struck.
SPEAKER_01:And I was using a wedge and a nine iron, so I mean it wasn't anything that I use on a consistent basis. Like I'm not using a nine and a wedge every time I have an iron shot.
SPEAKER_02:And you should be using them more often. I know I know when we've gone golfing, I've wanted to encourage you to use your approach clubs more. But that'll come with better ball striking. If you get if you get that muscle memory and the technique down where you can strike the ball confidently, you're gonna learn that you can you'll be able to hit your nine-iron like 130 yards.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Where now I'm hitting it like half that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm not confident with it at all.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and and like I say, like a lot of the time your wedges, you come down behind the ball. And that's where you're getting the ball to pop up, which is good. You want that elevation, but you also need to strike ball first so you get the distance and trajectory as well.
SPEAKER_01:And I've still got somewhat of a baseball swing with it. Because I pop and then I'm coming back. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and swinging in the garage, you're not going to be able to go up. You're going to hit my garage door opener. I don't want to do that. You got to keep it flat, which is actually it actually helps technique-wise. I swung a few drivers and I don't hit the ceiling, so nobody should hit the ceiling. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You're right.
SPEAKER_02:Get get our buddy over here, our little golf buddy over here to swing a few to this winter. Yeah. Like I said, it's not going to be super entertaining because we're not going to be able to see the results, but ball striking and muscle memory and just keeping those golf swing muscles in shape over the winter, I guarantee you, is going to make a difference.
SPEAKER_01:Oh hell yeah. So it's a it's like anything else, the the repetition and the the muscle memory and all that stuff, like you just said. Even the eye keeping your eyes down, stuff like that, just basics. So I I'm excited. I mean, even if we tee up balls in the doorway and hit them into the the yard. Oh, yeah. That's always something we can do.
SPEAKER_02:We could do that just to do just to do a check on where we're actually swinging.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and that and that's all pending on if it's 30 below outside or not, below when we're going to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you'll shatter your driver if you swing when it's too cold.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And I just bought a new cheap driver, so I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_02:But being on the subject of muscle memory, all too all too familiar loss for the Vikings today.
SPEAKER_01:It was. Otherwise, I mean, he he shows flashes of holy fuck, how did he do that? And then he shows flashes of where the hell were you throwing that ball? Like what what what are we doing here? I think they don't run the ball enough. I mean, there was that one drive I was in the car, but I know that we'd we ran the ball like three or four times in a row, got first down, first down, good gain, and then he threw a pick when Jefferson stepped on the corner's foot.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:So I mean why are why aren't we running the ball more consistently?
SPEAKER_02:I'd love to ask KOC that. I would love to have a one-on-one with KOC and just ask him where um I'm not a I'm not even a high-level high school football coach.
SPEAKER_01:I don't even call plays for our local high school football team. But at the same time, any average fan should be able to see that it's it's still a running league, no matter who wants to argue with me on that. The most successful teams are in the top seven to eight rushers in the league. Look at Philly last year, number one rushing team in the league, won the Super Bowl. Granted, they have Saquon Barkley, so they can be the number one rushing team in the league. Then you look at teams like Baltimore. They're always top five rushing team in the league. Yeah, it helps that you have Lamar Jackson and now Derrick Henry, but that's not where it starts. It's it starts up front in the offensive line. And our offensive line still isn't at full strength. But which is bonkers. It it is. But at the same time, you know, that that's that's where your running game starts. And if you don't have confidence in your offensive line, you're not gonna have confidence in your running game, and you're gonna throw the ball more and you're gonna roll the pocket and you're gonna run quarterback and my biggest takeaway from that game was all those fucking penalties.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god, it was obscene. The amount of the the false, what do we have? Six or seven false starts on offense at home for the record.
SPEAKER_01:And I think Paul O'Neill or not Paul O'Neill, a right tackle, O'Neal, yeah, had had like five.
SPEAKER_02:It's unbelievable. That's a that's a solo mental error on the lineman's part. I mean, that is one person that's screwing up the whole drive for the team.
SPEAKER_01:You can't do that at home.
SPEAKER_02:You have to be disciplined. You can't do it at home. You can't you shouldn't even do it as an NFL lineman.
SPEAKER_01:I I agree. I I agree.
SPEAKER_02:It's unbelievable to me. I mean, there there are times like I think I had two false starts in my entire high school career. I didn't I didn't have one. No. And and and both of both of my false starts, I was playing center and snapped the ball too soon. Actually, I take that back. One of them I snapped the ball too soon, the other one I didn't snap the ball, and everybody else took off. One of those funny referee calls where it's like false start, everybody on the offense except the center.
unknown:And that happens.
SPEAKER_02:And and it's just, you know, whatever I was dazed in the huddle or just looking at a butterfly or the stars overhead, and I didn't catch the count or whatever it was. Just overthinking it. And I just held on to the ball, and he's like, and everybody else moved and he moved, and I just stood still. Fuck. But I mean, i as an NFL lineman, you think like if that sticks with me for so long that I fucked that up in high school, and if I can go four years, five years of varsity play plus another two years of younger play, it's like if I can go that long and only have two false starts, I think NFL linemen should be able to fucking step up and not false. At least not false starts six times. Yeah. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You get a couple, or you're at an away game and the crowd is loud and you can't hear shit. I get that. Or if the defense is doing some nimbly bimbly shit, I get that. You get you because your your adrenaline is going, you're fucking antsy. You want to get the you want to get the leg up on the defender, you want to be the first one to move. I get that. I understand how they happen. But six, however many times O'Neill falls started today.
SPEAKER_01:So why are they not calling it when you and I'll use Philadelphia as an example because they do it all the fucking time. And I think they're starting to do it now, they're starting to call it. But when we played them, I don't remember which tackle it was, but it was like half a second before the ball snapped and dudes moving.
SPEAKER_02:They have gotten so lax with the discipline of the offensive line. It used to be where not move. It used to be where as soon as you were set, you could not move. Like the center, they do this head bob thing, and the tackles do this fucking the arm kick point. 10, 15 years ago, that was a false start. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Illegal motion or thing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you could not move. Once you get set, you're set, and then you wait till the ball is snapped, and that was the call. But now I don't know when the rules changed where they started allowing centers, they started allowing to snap their head up and down as much as they fucking want. And then they started allowing the guards and tackles to make their calls with their hands, so they flip their hands out. And even you can see it, there it's a textbook tackle move where they'll be on the line, they'll be set either in a two or three-point stance, and they'll give like a cock with their arm right before the ball is snapped. And it's intentional, it's obviously intentional to try and get the defense to jump off sides. But somewhere, sometime, I don't know when it happened, the NFL decided that they're not gonna call an illegal motion or a false start on that type of movement. And I think that's ridiculous because you don't need to point all of your line signals, all of your line calls, all of your double teams and your your second level blocks. Anything you're calling is audible. It's not it's not I'm gonna point at this guy because I guarantee you the tackle fucking pointing at somebody, the guard's not looking over to see who the tackle's pointing at. Can't see him. The tackle's just saying whatever they have terminology for each linebacker, and they have terminology for each gap or each hole. Yep. And they say, like, if it's we'll say a a a guard tackle double team outside to the defensive end that you call an under, under, under. You don't point, hey, I'm gonna double team this guy, or or like a like a second level double team block with the center and guard on the nose or the inside shade tackle back to the inside linebacker. You're calling a Luke or a Roy, my terminology, you're calling Luke for a left guard center block or a Roy for the right guard center block to the second level, Luke Roy. And it's not the center's not going like Luke Luke, that guy, that guy. He's got a you can call 5'4, 5'6, 8, 4 numbers, Luke, Luke 5'6, Luke 5-6. Luke knows that 56 is the left. I mean, these guys are elite athletes in the football spectrum. Like they are they know that like they know the number of every defender out there. They they they study hard enough and they do enough homework where they know that middle linebacker 56 is a stud, but if they have 54 in, they're doing uh more of a pass prevent offense or defense because 54 is better at coverage than 56, but 56 is better blitzing and run game, so they know what to call. Like, this is this is football 101. Anyway, my whole gripe fucking linemen don't need to be fucking moving before the ball is snapped.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and I can see like a center doing it because I agree, I agree, because they're the the and that's where it originated.
SPEAKER_02:I think that's where this rule originated was the center was actually making audibles, he was reading the defense, he was kind of squatting so he could see up to the second level, and he was making audible calls. Right. And they allowed the centers to start doing it, but somewhere, sometime, they started allowing guards and tackles to do this fucking arm cock thing.
SPEAKER_01:Which gives them the the advantage of having their arms up so those defenders don't have the chance to knock them down or well you can I mean you can be in your stance with your arm at the ready.
SPEAKER_02:It right. I mean, it doesn't take that long, but this every time I see that, I shake my head because it's just it's unnecessary motion.
SPEAKER_01:I think the biggest gripe from that game, from what you and I kind of were messaging back and forth on, and I'm sure a bunch of other people can attest to this, that roughing the passer call on Dallas Turner.
SPEAKER_02:I will play the red team and I will start to I will start the argument right now with the argument to my view. My view is the opposite of this, but the argument is that skills players should be protected from larger, egregiously larger players from landing on them.
SPEAKER_01:That's Vince Wilfrog landing on a uh a Kyler Murray.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, yes, and that that that is that is the nature, that is like the inspiration of the rule. But my entire uh uh personality and uh all of my opinions are are based uh uh politically, personally, uh socially, all of my opinions are based on the notion that we should not be making the exceptions the rules. Because exceptions happen so uh few times in relation to the amount of times that the rule happens, you cannot make a rule based off the exception because then that clouds everything. So you're talking Vince Wilfork landing on Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray gets injured and his career is over. He's a$6.2 million a year quarterback, whatever the fuck he gets paid. I just threw that number out there. And now you destroy this guy's career. Guess what? There, I work with people every single day where if they step wrong and slip into a conveyor belt, then their life is over. Yeah, they die. And it's like, yes, we have corporate safety policies and we have safety organizations that that uphold safety standards and stuff, but the fact of the matter is when you have a job that entails getting hit by another human being, you cannot make a rule that prevents human beings from hitting other human beings. So how I here here's my question on that play. How was he supposed to do that? That's what I want the NFL to answer. I want the NFL to answer how was he supposed to make that tackle?
SPEAKER_01:So here's what I got out of it. And I don't know if it's right or wrong, because you they're not all they're not supposed to leave their feet or the they like both of them aren't supposed to be able to leave their feet or something like that. So how I see this and I thought from what I saw it, it was a I have it pulled up right here. I saw him leave his feet, fall on top of him, okay, whatever. What he's supposed to do on a quarterback that normally leads the league in rushing can break almost any player from getting a sack on him is to come midsection and roll. Now he can't drop his hips because that's illegal. He can't leave his feet because that's illegal. So is he supposed to push him over? What happens if Lamar Jackson throws that ball and it's a roughing the passer regardless? Now you can't you can't do the rule for Lamar Jackson, and then in the same breath, a defender sticks the top of their helmet underneath the face mask of JJ McCarthy hitting him. You can't do that. I don't care what it is. Look at last year when Sam Darnold almost got his head ripped off in the end zone and nothing's called. And I will say not protect just the top five quarterbacks in the NFL because you don't know which quarterback is gonna pop on these other teams. The Vikings are unwatchable, unwatchable without JJ McCarthy. Nothing against Brosmer, nothing against the other guy that they picked up, but they were almost unwatchable with Carson Wentz. Oh, yeah. I'm sorry. JJ McCarthy is the future of the Vikings. I need to be protecting him just as much as Lamar Jackson.
SPEAKER_02:Okay now.
SPEAKER_01:Do I think after watching the replay that it was roughing the passer? Probably. But it's to the discretion of the referee.
SPEAKER_02:Now And by rule in the NFL.
SPEAKER_01:Because the act of passing often puts a passer in a position where he is particularly vulnerable to injury, special rules against roughing the passer apply. Players in a passing posture are considered to be a player in a defenseless posture. Any physical acts against a player who is in passing posture, example before, during, or after attempting a pass, which in the game, officials' judgment, are unwarranted by the circumstances of the play will be called as follow follow fouls. Sorry.
SPEAKER_02:That's the literature from the NFL rule?
SPEAKER_01:That is from the NFL rule. Okay. Well, then I take back That can't that no officials' judgment is the wrong verbiage that needs to be said. This is the rule. This is the rule for Patrick Mahomes.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's what we were talking about. We've talked about this several times, where it's and I understand You have to be black and white in the rule book.
SPEAKER_01:The money that goes into Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. I get that, but you can't have those rules.
SPEAKER_02:That's micromanagement. You can't you can't do that.
SPEAKER_01:I 100% agree with you. You have to have the same rules for Kings quarterback and the Browns quarterback.
SPEAKER_02:Knowing that that rule allows for official discretion now turns my animosity towards the Hockey League crew.
SPEAKER_01:Because they're the most they they and they said Paul Allen said this on the radio that they give out the most penalties in the NFL out of any other crew.
SPEAKER_02:And then Mike Pereira, yep, the consult the consultant, whatever, yep, the former referee. Yep. He's like, yeah, it was roughing the passer by rule. Well, no, not by rule, because you can't even fucking by judgment, you can't define what roughing. He's like, Yeah, he landed on him with his body weight. Again, I implore you to answer me. Do we just let him fucking throw the ball? Like, what do I have to do? Do I have to stop? And actually, one of the guys at the bar today made a really good suggestion that would it would quell my animosity towards officials and rules, and it would allow for quarterbacks to be left alone physically. Put a fucking skirt on him. Quarterbacks get to wear a skirt behind the line of scrimmage, you pull the flag, quarterbacks down. Anytime he crosses the line of scrimmage, he's fair game for anything. But if he's in the pocket or anywhere behind the line of scrimmage, the defense has to pull the flag from his belt instead of fucking hit him. If that's what your whole goal is to protect these moneymaker quarterbacks, then you fucking put a guardian cap on him and you put him in a fucking skirt and you tell them you're not going to get touched as long as you stay behind the line of scrimmage. And then all the fucking Patrick Mahomes and all the fucking Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady's out there can hang out behind the line and not worry about getting boo-boos. And just make it an egregious fine if you hit a quarterback behind the line. Like I'm talking like an$80,000 fine if you touch a quarterback behind the line of scrimmage. You want to protect quarterbacks, which is what the excuse that you're saying is for this rule. You want to protect them? Fucking do that. Don't make it this black and this gray area fucking blurred line where it's like, well, I mean, he landed on him with his body, but it wasn't that hard of a hit. Or, well, he didn't land on him with his body, but he fucking laid his he knocked his lights out.
SPEAKER_01:So if a guy say he didn't land on him, stay he threw him around like a ragdoll and anyway. Exactly. Like suplexed him. Is that rough in the past?
SPEAKER_02:It would be. It would any suplex tackle is illegal now. They call suplex tackles illegal right now.
SPEAKER_01:But I'm just saying, like he he wraps him up. If he like uses his momentum and spins.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I've seen that called. I've seen that called on on non-quarterbacks. I've seen that called. It was probably Hokuly's crew that called it.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's very disheartening. And then the blind side blows.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god. I'm so happy Thielen was so pissed off about that. The guy fucking ran into him.
SPEAKER_01:So is he Thielen's just supposed to stand there and take him? He did. Well, he put his arms up what he was gonna say.
SPEAKER_02:He engaged, he engaged, quote unquote, engaged in the block. Is he not allowed to protect himself? What the fuck, man? I mean, that that oh that was terrible. I I was the loudest person in Tom and Jerry's today, which isn't a real shocker, but that was terrible. I was losing my mind and people were laughing at me. And I like, I'm like, this is fucking stupid.
SPEAKER_01:That was one of the worst calls I've seen in a long time. Now it wasn't even a pick play.
SPEAKER_02:No, he he it was a he stood there, and the guy and that's what I said. That's what I said in real time when I saw that block. I said, if you want to play in the NFL, pay the fuck attention. If you don't want to get oh, this is another good one. One of my buddies on Facebook had a good had a good post about it. He said, It's the quarterback's fault he gets sacked. Either get rid of the ball or get better line. Ultimately, it's that team's fault that they cause a sack, right? Because the defense gets around a no-lineman or the running back or the tight end or whoever's job it is to block did not do their job, and that's why the quarterback's in jeopardy. That's a natural consequence of playing fucking football. Correct. And now you don't even have to live with it because if you let a guy by, there's a 50-50 shot that it's going to be a roughing the passer card. It's a natural consequence. That's part of the game. The quarterback gets sacked. You can't have a penalty because the guy gets lit up. These guys are coming in hot. Like they're not, they're not taking baby steps at the quarterback. They these two to three hundred and fifty pound defensive linemen have to give all of their fucking effort to get by these 250 to 350 to 400 pound offensive linemen. And then once they do that, their momentum's moving. You can't stop an object in motion unless it's met with equal or opposite force.
SPEAKER_01:And if you do stop something that large going that fast, they get hurt. They do.
SPEAKER_02:Like try stopping on a dime when you're a big boy like me. It's not, it's not fun. It hurts your ankles and knees right now.
SPEAKER_01:So I I just that I think it was the next series when JJ got hit when I think it was Mason that missed a block on Hamilton.
SPEAKER_02:Uh-huh. Yeah. Whoa, big miss. Big miss block.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I I don't I don't like it. The Thielen thing really pissed me off. I mean, I can I can't get on board with the passing.
SPEAKER_02:No, but I can accept I can learn to accept that this is the league standard. I can't get the passer. Yes, yes. But that block. Oh my God.
SPEAKER_01:Jones ran out of the backfield. Thielen's running a drag route, more or less, and he stopped. And looked up, and a guy was there. And put his hands up to protect himself.
SPEAKER_02:And the guy wasn't looking, so he got knocked over.
SPEAKER_01:He got hit.
SPEAKER_02:He got knocked over.
SPEAKER_01:And by the time he turned his head to Thielen, he was looking up at the ceiling. Yeah. That is not a blindside hit. No. That is not a crack block.
SPEAKER_02:No, it wasn't. It wasn't A, A, it wasn't intentional. If you watch the replay, he didn't even mean to do that. He just put his fucking hands up.
SPEAKER_01:It's not a blindside block, and I don't even think that would be a offensive pass interference. It wouldn't be anything.
SPEAKER_02:No, it wasn't a yard down the field. It was well within the fucking press zone or whatever they call it, where receivers can go hands on the five-yard zone.
SPEAKER_01:It's it's getting to a point where I'm I'm I just I don't even want to watch anymore.
SPEAKER_02:Well, that's I posted two Facebook statuses today and both of them said fuck the NFL.
SPEAKER_01:It's so the professional sports is getting and it's all professional sports are getting so bad at this. And I understand you want to protect players. I get that. I I I understand it. It's a business. You may it makes a lot of money.
SPEAKER_02:But if you're not sure, yeah, but there's always somebody that there's always gonna be somebody else. It might not be on the same team, it might not be in the same division or conference, but there's always gonna be somebody that's fucking rock star talented. Regardless of how many people get injured, there's always the next fucking there's always the next Tom Brady, there's always the next Emmett Smith, there's always the next fucking Randy Moss, there's always the next one. Yes, it sucks that they get hurt, but that's kinda like again.
SPEAKER_01:They know that because they play for how long? They've been playing their whole lives, they understand the risks of the game. Yes, whether it be CTE or ACL injuries or neck injuries. You hear some of these guys that have been hurt badly from the game of football or basketball or whatever, baseball, they wouldn't trade it for anything else in the world. They want to play the sport that they love.
SPEAKER_02:And I think that's part the nothing feels better on defense than laying somebody out that has the ball. And nothing feels better on offense as a non-skilled player than laying somebody out.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You and I both did that a lot when we played.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it it's such a good feeling just to throw that block. And now you have people that are elite, they made it to the top. They are they made it, man. And now they're getting told, uh, you can't play like you used to.
SPEAKER_01:Right. And that that's it's disheartening. It really, really is. And you saw the frustration on Jefferson's face, and Thielen's face. I mean, that one pass interference call that almost didn't get called for Jefferson when the dude was all over his arm.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, it was that was pretty bad. I'm and there's pass just like holding, there's pass interference on every single pass, whether it's offensive or defensive.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:And uh to leave it up to the judgment of a human being is hard. The refs officials' jobs are hard.
SPEAKER_02:They are I'm I'm never gonna say it's an easy job.
SPEAKER_01:But if you're at the level of the NFL, you you need to one, not be biased. You you need to have a clear understanding of the game, and you can't let your one call dictate the outcome of the game. You can't do that. Yeah. And I think some of these officiating crews, and in whether it's basketball, baseball, football, hockey, soccer, whatever, a lot of these people are ex athletes that have little man syndrome. They have all the power right in their hands.
SPEAKER_02:And uh on the on that note about reffing Officiating being difficult criticizing KOC. I understand being NFL head coach, he he knows a lot more than I do. He's had a lot of experience. He he's a former player, he he gets it, but I mean, armchair coach here, like we said earlier, run the goddamn ball. You have to. And and I'm out here like talking to our other buddy, texted me. He said KOC needs to needs to hang up on the play call. Like, we gotta get at least get like an offensive consultant to help you out. Do but just just something, because it his play calls are questionable. And I don't even remember in recent history the last time the Minnesota Vikings had a good offensive play caller.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, what's Schottenheimer?
SPEAKER_02:Schottenheimer might be the last one that I remember. Because Musgrave sucked.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there were Stefansky was good too.
SPEAKER_02:Stefansky was okay.
SPEAKER_01:Stefansky, I liked him. But the last good offensive play caller, man.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, it's been a minute.
SPEAKER_01:It's been a long time. A long time. We've had a lot of really good defensive coordinators.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah. Brian Bills. I've never had I've never had a problem with the Vikings defense. Even when we weren't that great, I still love the Vikings defense.
SPEAKER_01:And I can go way back. Brian Billick was a fantastic de-coordinator. Mike Tomlin was good. Was our D-coordinator when Mike Tice was our head coach. Zimmer was there for a minute. He called the defense even as a head coach to and obviously. Now Flores.
SPEAKER_02:And I love Brian Flores.
SPEAKER_01:And and you know, his defense played really well today. And that's what sucks about this whole thing with the growing pains with McCarthy. I don't want to waste all this talent that we have. Yeah. Young talent. Yeah. But we are one of the oldest teams in the league. Like we're getting older and the league's getting younger. Like that's a big problem. I love Harrison Smith. Love him to death. He's been a fantastic Viking for his career. He's I think today was his 200th start.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:He's old, man. He is. He's got a goal. He he does. He's got to hang it up.
SPEAKER_02:Hey, that's on my that's on my that's that's my whole argument. Get the fuck out and get these younger guys in.
SPEAKER_01:Hopefully Grenard's okay from the sounds of it. It looked like he had a dislocated shoulder or broken collarbone. Yeah. Hopefully it's just a stinger. But who do we have next week? I didn't even look at the schedule.
SPEAKER_02:I don't even know.
SPEAKER_01:I don't I don't think it really matters.
SPEAKER_02:I I just I know it's another toughish game.
SPEAKER_01:Are the rest of our schedules tough? But it it's gonna be hard for us to make any noise. I would I would rather Dub Bears. That'll be a tough one. They sweeped one out at the end this week.
SPEAKER_02:The Bears at home.
SPEAKER_01:I I I really do I don't know if I'm I'm on the fence about the whole playoff thing. Because if we get in the playoffs, we have a later draft pick. If we don't get in the playoffs, we have a higher draft pick.
SPEAKER_02:Well, yeah, we had that question either last week or a couple weeks ago.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I I don't I don't know what I what I want to do with that. I that's all dependent on on how things go. We need we need to get younger. Yeah. To get younger is the most important thing for our for our squad. Getting younger and healthy. I mean, JJ can't just start four or five games a week or a year. That's bad. Yeah. I do think that we should go over next next Sunday, we'll go over our our picks from the beginning of the year. See how we're doing if we want to change any at all. Look at standings and all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I just I don't know. I it's frustrating. It is. It's really frustrating because you see the you see the talent that that the Vikings have and to to just waste it, it's it's hard to watch. It really is. But hopefully McCarthy can get this shit together in the next couple of years. And he's learning. Like they're all learning with each other. That like that's the big thing. And to be able to move forward with the whole thing, it's gonna be it's gonna be real important for us as a team. Hopefully, we don't just give up on him or fuck it all up like we did. Christian Ponder would have been a great quarterback if we just could have protected him. Our offensive line was so fucking terrible when we played. He was just playing, he played scared. Yeah. How can you not when you got a sieve for an offensive line and you you don't even get two seconds to throw the ball?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that was bad.
SPEAKER_01:You're getting tackled when you're handing the ball off to Adrian Peterson or Chester Taylor. Like it's it's terrible. It it's it doesn't create a good work environment, as I like to say. It it's bad.
SPEAKER_02:In other sports news, what the fuck was the Timberwolves court?
SPEAKER_01:Well, that's for the the midseason cup.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I could not watch Oh my god, it was hard to watch.
SPEAKER_01:All the courts are like that.
SPEAKER_02:Oh well, lime green, though. I mean, chartreuse green. Yeah, that's their uh You gotta know as like a TV producer, all the TV producers in the NBA were going, please don't do that, please.
SPEAKER_01:That's their third color. It's terrible. I I hate it. I think it's gross.
SPEAKER_02:That's an awful color.
SPEAKER_01:I'd rather see them wear those retro 90s jerseys and play on that kind of a court.
SPEAKER_02:Well, why can't we just have normal wood courts? I don't know. Why can't we just have regular wood courts? I mean, football fields besides that fucked up Boise State one are all still green.
SPEAKER_01:And uh I think Coastal Carolina has it like a teal.
SPEAKER_02:Oh yeah. Pretty sweet actually. Well, and and Hibbing High Schools is navy blue. Have you been there? Yeah. Have you seen it? Yeah, it's not great. I don't like colored grass is green, man. I don't like it. Grass is green, dirt is brown, wood is wood.
SPEAKER_01:It's hard to see, and I'm sure this is kind of a play on it for them. Like it's hard to see them when they're in their home. When I watched them play Esco that one time, it was it was pretty easy for them to find Hibbing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. I don't understand why my mic went out. What did you do to me? I didn't touch nothing. Don't fucking lie to me.
SPEAKER_02:Dorothy Mantooth is a saint.
SPEAKER_01:But at least the Timberwolves are doing well.
SPEAKER_02:I mean they're starting to start to turn around now that Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall is putting on a show.
SPEAKER_01:Well, the big rumor now is that the Timberwolves are gonna go after Ja Mor Morant. Oh yeah, I I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I don't know. I don't I I don't know. So how'd your how'd your girls enjoy the Sadie Hawkins dance?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I mean, I don't know. Nina said it was boring. They only played, they repeated like four or five songs. Chloe had a great time. She danced the whole time, she said and sang the whole time. So she she had a good experience. She went with another friend. Yeah. Pictures were nice. It's just not the same from when we went.
SPEAKER_02:No, it's not. We me and Maya talk about that a lot and how dances used to be fun and now it's just like another social gathering. It's not even like they could do the same thing without music and dresses, and it'd be the same.
SPEAKER_01:That's kind of what I I talked to my wife about it. Like, we're spending three, four hundred dollars on dresses and tickets and pictures and all this other shit, and all they do is stand in the corner and talk to each other. Like, what the hell is this all about? It reminds me of for those of you that have seen this movie, it's one of my favorites. Uh, heavyweights.
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:When they have the dance with the all-girl camp and it's the fat kid camp, and then one of the counselors from the kit, the boy camp, goes out there and just starts dancing. Like, that's what that's what I envision. Like, if you were myself or one of the other dad parents was, we'd just go out in the middle of the dance floor and start just embarrassingly dancing in front of our children. So I don't know. Sadies isn't the same from from when we went, which obviously it's not gonna be. That was over 20 years ago.
SPEAKER_02:But well, not over. Not over 20 years ago.
SPEAKER_01:Well, for some of us.
SPEAKER_02:No, not even for you. Not over 20 years yet. Your first one, maybe, not your last one.
SPEAKER_01:Well, last night it'd have been 20. If we had Sadies the same night, 20 years would have been last night. I've been out of high school for 20 years. Oh fuck. This would have been my senior year 20 years ago. Yeah. And I guess they played music from the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 2000s, like nothing new. Anyway, yeah, that was the topic. And then they all I think Nina went back to my uncle's house.
SPEAKER_02:She said, yeah, she I talked to her. She said she ended the night pretty early. Ten o'clock, I think she said she got back. Yeah, she said she stayed up till eleven and went to sleep. Mine was up until 5 a.m. playing poker.
SPEAKER_01:Where? Here?
SPEAKER_02:No, at at the party place they were at. Oh, nice. At the after party place?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Gavin went to a friend's place and they don't have heat there, so they had a bunch of space heaters all all around. Why? Do they not have heat? It's a cabin. Oh. And a cab. He left. He came back to the house at like three in the morning. Him and his girlfriend. So whatever. I didn't yeah. I d I don't know. Normally that's just a little bit well well planned. Like normally people plan that beforehand. Oh yeah. Like I I I've never thought of going to a dance and not knowing where the after party was. And there better be fucking heat there. No kidding. I mean it's November. A lot of deer p pictures on Facebook too.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, there was a few. One of my cousins shot a nice I don't know if it was an eight-pointer I couldn't count exactly in the picture, but down at my uncle's house, his buddy shot a deer they've been kind of tracking the last few years.
SPEAKER_01:It's got a paddle rack on it. It's a 15-pointer. Damn. Or 12-pointer. Really, really nice deer, big deer. And then my other uncle shot a I think it was an eight-pointer last weekend. During bow that it was a bowl season tag. So he shot that down at my dad's house with his crossbow. So I mean I and then Gavin's best friend shot one yesterday morning before the dance. Saw that. One of our other softball buddies, his he got one pretty early. Him and his wife drug that out. Yeah, there I saw a lot of people on Facebook, on my Facebook anyway, that got deer. Not a lot of does. Like everybody shot bucks.
SPEAKER_02:They were really stingy with dough permits this year in the area. The hunting area just north of here last year gave out 600 doe permits. This year they gave out 25.
SPEAKER_01:Holy shit.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so they're they're not giving dough permits out.
SPEAKER_01:Interesting. I wonder why. There's doughs everywhere.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I think well, I was talking to somebody, can't remember who I was talking to. They were like, well, maybe they should make it maybe they should make a uh antlerless only season so we can preserve some of these male deer once in a while. I mean, if we're shooting if we're shooting all antlered deer, you're taking m all at least most of the mature bucks out of the picture, and you're taking a lot of young bucks out of the picture, so you're only leaving these really young, antlerless bucks and does.
SPEAKER_01:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And when you get to that point, it's what the fuck is happening?
SPEAKER_01:The foot's tangled in your cord. What the fuck are you doing over there? Struggling. Anyway.
SPEAKER_02:When you get to that point, it's like I mean, I I know the DNR has their plans and they they manage the the herds, but it's like the math doesn't math. If you're taking all of the breeding aged bucks out of the equation, then you're leaving a gap because the immature bucks don't breed until they're like two or three. And the does aren't gonna bang themselves and make babies. So that's profiling. Well, I'm just saying, ovary plus ovary doesn't equal zygote.
SPEAKER_01:I agree.
SPEAKER_02:So it's like, is there gonna be a point where we look at that and are like, hey, maybe we should make it limited antler deer and then take as many antlerless as you want, because then you're preserving some of the breeding males, and then that will bolster the deer population. I don't know. That's just my that's my armchair conservationist opinion.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you'd think that's be that would be in the plans for it, just because, you know, like you just explained, you shoot all the I mean, it's survival of the fittest. All the breeders. You're shooting all the breeder deer and you're leaving all the the cross-eyed one-legged, you know, weird ones. That's pretty much what you're gonna start getting. That's how the population isn't gonna keep going.
SPEAKER_02:I mean the other problem is those pesky wolves.
SPEAKER_01:That too. We should have a wolf season.
SPEAKER_02:I know they they looked into it at one point. I think they're still looking into it, but I don't know. There I just saw a video of I just saw a video of a couple wolves just romping and roaming down the streets of Ely.
SPEAKER_01:Probably from the Wolf Center. Yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know what the what the answer to that is. I don't know either.
SPEAKER_02:I mean there's I should have should have gone to college for conservation.
SPEAKER_01:I know we have some friends that are in that kind of field, also. If you guys listen, give us some feedback on that and let us know. I'm interested. I'm I'm interested to know the answer to that. Just because I I think it's interesting. I really do. We do. Why are we only allowing certain zones to get so many dope permits where in other zones it's it's both? Are you hunting this year at all? If I see one out the window of my house.
SPEAKER_02:That's my that's my strategy this week, but I am going up to the land next weekend.
SPEAKER_01:I with basketball starting, probably not. I mean, this weekend was tough with Sadies, and then today being my mom and Susie's birthday. We I just didn't feel like going next weekend. I have my basketball scrimmage on Saturday on Rock Ridge, and then Sunday I'm sure I'm gonna be all over the place trying to figure out stuff with that just based on what I see on Saturday, and then third weekend is it's always too fucking cold by then. I I never and my birthday is that that Wednesday before the third weekend, so I don't know. I I've never honestly I've never really been much of a deer hunter. I did it more for the camaraderie and hanging out with my uncle and you know, stuff like that. And with my uncle from Nashville not coming up and my other uncle going out he's going out west for work, he just left today. So I'm not gonna see him. And then my you know, I just I got too much going on. Just way too much going on. Like I said, if I see it out my front window and I feel like poking a deer, maybe I will.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, we have the luxury of doing that living where we do.
SPEAKER_01:I did buy a tag just in case for the for our zone here in our area. So if I want to take one, or I I could even give it to the guy down the road. I'm sure he could fill it. Or you or whoever. I mean, it half the people in the place we live don't even buy tags. So it it's it is what it is. I d I don't I don't like cold. I might buy a bowl for next year next season, next year.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's warmer during bow season.
SPEAKER_01:I was looking at Fleet Farm and they have one on sale right now for like 450 bucks. It shoots oh, what the hell was it? It's one of the less expensive, not the top brand one. It shoots like 150, 150 yards, 160 yards. And you're never gonna shoot at that crossbow that far, ever. Oh man. So yeah, I just I've shot a couple crossbows. It's it's a fucking blast. I wanna it's a lot of fun. You been watching the wild at all?
SPEAKER_00:No. I try not to.
SPEAKER_01:The what?
SPEAKER_02:No, my wife had it on this morning and instantly I became angry.
SPEAKER_01:What made you so angry?
SPEAKER_02:I prefer listening to the news rather than watching the news.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah, I do too. I I I think the news sources that you and I would normally get our news from don't try and ram things down your throat. You know what I mean? And I I I just think that a lot of these big news outlets they have such an agenda agenda and they have such an investment in everybody's got an agenda. Such an investment in either the current uh administration or the the next administration.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:No, it just it's frustrating.
SPEAKER_02:Current events are forty days into the government shutdown. Forty days of people who get paid. That's the longest ever, correct? Almost. It's approaching. I think the longest ever was slightly longer, but it could be. You might be right. But yeah, it's just people that get paid to make decisions on behalf of the masses are unable to make decisions on behalf of the masses. And that's just where the world is.
SPEAKER_01:It's always it helps that most of them are very, very wealthy and they can take the time off to vacation.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, a hundred percent.
SPEAKER_01:With my wife's job, TSA and air traffic control and these airlines. There's a lot of there's a lot of issues. A lot of people not working. Oh, yeah. Not good. Not good at all. I mean I don't know. I don't know. These people are supposed to work for the people, not for themselves, for their own agenda.
SPEAKER_02:Well, and that's how the news, the mass outlets portray it, is like these people are working for the people with this opinion, and these people are the working are working for the people with this opinion. Well, they're supposed to work for both. They're supposed to work for everyone, and they're supposed to be the ones that come up with the ideas that are gonna work for everybody and not just one side or the other.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And that's just where we are in society as a world, in fact. You know, it's it it's just it's it's just yin and yang. It's everybody has one-sided views, and everybody else has other sided views, and nobody can just sit down and agree to meet somewhere in the middle. I know some people that are very, very, very, very passionate about their beliefs and about how they feel people, other people should live their lives. And I to them implore them to answer the question, what makes them the the what makes them able to make that judgment? Like who basically who are you to judge what I do what a good person is or what a bad person is. And a lot of them, it's it's funny because a lot of them lean back on their faith when they say, you know, morality comes from faith, faith begets morality, religion begets morality, but they're also in the same breath of air the ones that are making it harder to help people that need help. They're also the ones that vote in favor of rich people getting even richer and corporations making obscene amounts of money. Elon Musk, last week, Elon Musk was approved by the Board of Tesla to receive a one trillion dollar equivalent in in stocks. If he meets certain expectations over the next five years as CEO of Tesla, he will receive in stock options a one trillion dollar bonus. It's the first of its kind. Nobody's ever received that amount of money. And it's gonna be hard for him to do, granted. Like he he pr like 90% chance he's not gonna be able to do what he has to do to get it. But they also gave the board of directors some discretion and leeway in that, where if he comes up short on some things, they can still vote that to be made happen.
SPEAKER_01:Jesus. But that's it, that's insane.
SPEAKER_02:Well, I mean trillion dollars. A trillion dollars, yeah. And who needs that money? Any anybody that's got even a billion dollars didn't come about it honestly. I mean, the only billionaire that that I would say earned their money honestly bought a lottery ticket when it was over a billion dollars and won. Jimmy Buffett. Jimmy Buffett? Warren Buffett? That one, yeah. Jimmy Buffett is Marguerite, though. Warren Buffett is probably the most like human of them, progressive human that wants to take care of people and do the right thing. But all I mean, anybody that's made money off of investing in stocks and solely investing in stocks and purchasing other companies and mergers, and uh if you're in that if you're in that ballpark, then I I guess you you could come by it honestly, but I mean the the egregiously rich people are are not there because they are taking care of the people that need help. They are there because they are taking care of one person.
SPEAKER_01:Like the Vanderbilts and the Carnegies and the Apples fans.
SPEAKER_02:Vanderbilts, Carnegies, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Donald Trump, Warren Buffett, Steve Jobs, Steve Jobs, Rip, the other Tim, Tim, the other CEO of Apple, the current CEO of Apple, Tim, whatever. Yep, yep. But it's like I Zuckerberg. Zuck, yeah. And Zuckerberg's just a freak, man. I mean, nobody likes him. Literally, nobody likes him. He's weird. But I'm just saying, like it's always it's always even even if I even if I propose something that would be we'll say 20 years ago, it would have been viewed as a very, very moderate stance on something. Some of these people still call me LibTarded because I think that. It's like it's a moderate stance, man. I'm not I'm not one of the people that's screaming liberal obscenities from mountaintops. I mean, I I live my life the way I live my life, and I try not to let the way other people live their lives affect my life.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And even when they do live their lives and it affects me, I don't jump down their throats over it. I talk to them and try to come up with a way to agree if I like them. If I like the person, I'll talk to them and try to come up with a way that I can agree with them.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:And there's some people who I love, I love hanging out with, I love spending time with, and we just can't talk about big world issues like that because it it just deteriorates immediately and gets into an argument, and we recognize that and we don't talk about it.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. I like to stir that pot though.
SPEAKER_02:But and a jab, a jab from time to time is fun and in good humor, but when it actually comes down to it getting in the weeds, I those those people that I like as human beings, right? I I mean I put political views views past. And would I love to reach an agreement and a and and a mutual understanding and a neutral ground? Yes, I would, but am I gonna sacrifice the sanity of myself to do that? No, I'm just gonna accept they are who they are, and I'm gonna let them think what they think. And as long as we don't discuss big world views, everything's a good time. Right. And even when we do discuss big world views, it's still a good time. I like I like discourse, but it it's still not until somebody throws a white clock. It's still it's still not, and that wasn't even about like a major view, but it's it's not about like I'm not gonna hang out with this person because they're this way. Right. And that's kind of my whole argument right now is like if I can do that, if people believe I am so set in my ways and I am such a far-left conspiracist, like I like if people believe that I am that way and they are still able to hang out with me and have a good time with me and have fun, then they are putting the way that I live my life aside, even though it contradicts their views, because they like me.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_02:So what I am imploring other people to do is to take that and just apply that to all human beings. Where it's not your buddy that you hang out with and have a good time with, and we have some great times, like we have fun as a group, but it's like the stranger you see on the corner that's dressed in drag, give the guy a break. Whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Is it affecting you?
SPEAKER_02:The two guys that posted on Facebook that they just got married and they're super happy that they got married because it's legal, give them a break. Just because you disagree with it doesn't mean you have to tell them you disagree with it. Right. Okay, that's my rant for the night. Good job. You got me going.
SPEAKER_01:Good. That was that was my plan. That was a good plan. So we're doing a bracket tonight. Thank God. We're gonna do greatest sports movies of all time.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, I like it. This one might actually have some controversy. A lot of the other ones we've agreed pretty wholeheartedly on, but we'll see what this. I know both you and I, there's one movie that's gonna be a shoe-in no matter what, typically to at least the semifinals, if not the finals, but well, and it looks like they put a lot of these like similar movies against each other and some of the ones from the same like it's more or less the same movie.
SPEAKER_01:Oh so we're gonna start the first. The first two, like uh it goes one side, then it goes the other side. We've gone over that before. First movies are Rocky Belboa and Rocky II. So Rocky Balboa, I believe, is the one that I don't know if it's the first one or if it's the the Rocky one, like or the Belbo I don't know. I I'm still picking uh Rocky II. Rocky II is my favorite. I love Rocky II.
SPEAKER_02:I think Rocky II might be the only one that I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_01:Well, it'll make the next one even more difficult. Rocky III or Rocky IV. So Rocky III is Mr. T. Rocky II! Rocky IV is with the Russian.
SPEAKER_02:Uh Rocky IV for me. I liked Rocky IV.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Although Rocky III is where Mick dies. This one's gonna be hard. This one's gonna be hard. Creed?
SPEAKER_02:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Or Warrior.
SPEAKER_02:Ooh, that is hard.
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_02:I really liked Warrior.
SPEAKER_01:I did too. Tom Hardy and Joel Edgerton, Nick Nolte. It was it's such a good story.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, it's a it's a tearjerker. You've gotta go with Warrior. I'm I'm in agreement with that. I have to.
SPEAKER_01:Creed was phenomenal. I loved what they did with it. I love that they they gave uh Michael B. Jordan a chance. He did a fantastic job.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But it almost seemed like the same movie that Rocky was. You know what I mean? They just remade Rocky with Adonis Creed. Paul Creed. So next one the original Karate Kidd or the remake of J of Karate Kid. So the remake had Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan, where they obviously the original was. I would say the original in yeah. I 100% agree with you.
SPEAKER_02:I need to drink some vibrant. Last time I ate McDonald's I had I pooping.
SPEAKER_03:Ooh.
SPEAKER_02:That's I'm cutting that up. That's just for you.
SPEAKER_01:Next one. Facing the giants. Looks like it's a football movie. And the blind side. I love me the blind side too. Ooh, this one's gonna be difficult also. And Miracle or The Mighty Ducks?
SPEAKER_02:Oh no, you did not. Not in the first round. First round. That's actually really difficult for me. That like I'm I mean, one is a staple of my childhood that I could watch over and over and over again and love to watch. And the other one is just one of the best sports movies. One of the best sports movies ever made.
SPEAKER_01:How about one of the best sports stories ever?
SPEAKER_02:Oh, a hundred percent. The USA on Ice, Miracle, Miracle on Ice, 1980.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Lots of guys from Minnesota, lots of guys in Boston.
SPEAKER_02:Boston, Minnesota.
SPEAKER_01:Mighty Ducks based in Minneapolis. Emilio Esteves, Joshua Jackson. Quack.
unknown:Quack.
SPEAKER_01:Quack. Quack quack quack quack, Mr. Ducksworth. Quack, quack, quack, quack, Mr. Ducksworth. Man. Again.
SPEAKER_02:Again.
SPEAKER_01:I have to go with Miracle.
SPEAKER_02:I agree. I agree. I was leaning that way. I was just that'll get him going, don't you think?
SPEAKER_01:I I just I can't. Well, this one's easy. Sandlot or Sandlot 2? Sandlot. Oh, next one. The Rookie. That's with Dennis Quaid, who's the baseball coach. Yep. And bench warmers.
SPEAKER_02:Like the comedy bench warmers? The baseball movie. The rookie.
SPEAKER_01:I agree. I like it. You can't put bench warmers there. Rocky II or Rocky Four?
SPEAKER_02:It doesn't matter to me. They're both even numbers. I'm doing Rocky II.
SPEAKER_01:Warrior or the Karate Kid? I still gotta go with Warrior.
SPEAKER_02:I agree.
SPEAKER_01:I agree. Blind Side or Miracle? Fun fact, both based on tri real events.
SPEAKER_02:Miracle takes blind side in that. Sorry.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, two baseball movies. The Sandlot or The Rookie?
SPEAKER_02:The Sandlot or me. Yeah, me too.
SPEAKER_01:You're killing me, Smalls. Rocky too or Warrior? Warrior. Really?
SPEAKER_02:I I I'm not a huge Rocky guy. Oh man. I'm not a huge Rocky guy.
SPEAKER_01:So I picked Warrior for you because I feel nice. Next one. Now that we got that out of the way. And watch that and gave me goosebumps. Miracle or the Sandlot? Miracle. Alright, so we have. We have in our semifinal here. Warrior or Miracle? Yeah. Miracle. That's what I'm thinking. So other side of the bracket, to start it off. God shit. Damn it. Two of my favorite basketball movies. Glory Road or Space Jam.
SPEAKER_02:Hmm, you know which one I'm picking.
SPEAKER_01:But Glory Road's a real story.
SPEAKER_02:I don't care. Space Jam was real.
SPEAKER_01:No, it wasn't.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, aliens came and they played the Looney Tunes in a basketball game. They were gonna build Toon Mountain on Mars. Fine, I'll give it to you. I have the fucking things literally on my shelf right over there.
SPEAKER_01:The Pistol Pete movie called The Pistol or Coach Carter.
SPEAKER_02:I don't think I've seen Pistol Pete. Coach Carter was good. Coach Carter was really good.
SPEAKER_01:Happy Gilmore or the greatest game ever played?
SPEAKER_02:Ooh, well. I think from a social standpoint, Happy Gilmore. Okay. From a golf standpoint, probably the greatest game ever played, but from a from entertainment standpoint. It's happy Happy Gilmore by far. This one's gonna hurt.
SPEAKER_01:Waterboy or the longest yard, Adam Sandler.
SPEAKER_02:Oh well, for me it's Waterboy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. This one's really gonna hurt. Really bad. Like you can't even put these two movies against each other in the first round. Remember the Titans or Friday Night Lights.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god. I knew as soon as you said that, I knew which two movies it was gonna be. I mean, if we're doing a football bracket, that's the finals right there. Yeah. If we're doing football movies, that is the finals. Because both of them are phenomenal.
SPEAKER_01:Honestly, it's hard. It's really hard to argue either way. Me personally, I liked the TV show Friday Night Lights more than more than the movie. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But I love both of those.
SPEAKER_01:I love them too. I'd actually just watched Remember the Titans the other night.
SPEAKER_02:It's the football thing. You know, it re we relate to it, and you know, you go through it with your team, and that's both of those are about the ins and outs of playing football high school football. I mean, oh that's such a difficult choice.
SPEAKER_01:Football is fun. Football is fun. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01:Football is fun. Remember the Titans.
SPEAKER_02:That's I was gonna lean towards that.
SPEAKER_01:Remember the Titans. I was leaning toward Invincible or the game plan?
SPEAKER_02:Invincible. From a movie standpoint. I'd have to say invincible.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:Agree to disagree. What's what's your argument for the game plan? The rock.
SPEAKER_01:That's it? Cool runnings or kicking and screaming? Oh cool runnings, man.
SPEAKER_00:Hey, you wanna kiss my egg? Senko, what you smoking, man? You dead, man. I need smoking. I'm breathing. I'm breathing.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, moneyball? Or white men can't jump.
SPEAKER_02:For me, it's moneyball. Me too.
SPEAKER_01:One of, if not the greatest baseball movie. One of. One of. Space Jam or Coach Carter?
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I was gonna say I could give it to Coach Carter from a movie standpoint. For me personally, it's Space Jam, but from if I'm being like an objective opinion here, it's gonna be Coach Carter. The story is compelling. It's based on a real thing. It's okay, good.
SPEAKER_01:We're going to Coach Carter.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Ooh, the Battle of the Sandlers. Happy Gilmore or Waterboy?
SPEAKER_02:That's difficult for me. That's very difficult for me because I could quote the Waterboy up and down. I could quote Happy Gilmore up and down. I love golf. I love football. I don't really have an argument going one way or the other.
SPEAKER_01:First first sports movie I ever saw in theaters was The Waterboy. Yeah. With my Uncle Scott.
SPEAKER_02:That's awesome.
SPEAKER_01:I uh it's Vicky Vancourt.
SPEAKER_02:Vicky Vancourt. She's the devil.
SPEAKER_01:Mapa said alligators are so angry because they got all those teeth and no toothbrush. No toothbrush. Medulla oblongata.
SPEAKER_00:Medulla oblongata.
SPEAKER_01:Water boy. Yeah, I gotta go with them. Okay. Remember the Titans or Invincible? Remember the Titans. Yep. Cool Runnings or Moneyball.
SPEAKER_02:Again, I argue.
SPEAKER_01:It depends on what you want to watch. For me, I mean I could watch both of them.
SPEAKER_02:And for me, like cool runnings, man, but Moneyball. The content of Moneyball is so much better than the content. Based on sports alone, the content of Moneyball is so much more sports-oriented than cool runnings. So I gotta give it to Moneyball.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:I have to.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know Disney came out with some bangers for sports movies?
SPEAKER_02:We should, yeah, we should actually talk, but we should do we should do a segment on just like the Disney Channel movies and the Disney like the Disney era movies. Yeah, we could do that. Even if it's not a bracket, just talk about them. Just like you pick five and I pick five, and we go through why we picked our five just from our next episode.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. We're gonna do that next weekend. For sure. I like that.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Uh next two, Coach Carter or The Water Boy?
SPEAKER_02:They're two completely different movies. That's so hard. They're two completely different movies. That is so hard for me. That's like me choosing whether I like pizza or spaghetti more. They're two completely different foods. Although they are both Italian.
SPEAKER_01:So if I'm scrolling through the TV and I see that Coach Carter is on and Waterboy is on, which one am I picking to watch?
SPEAKER_02:I'm probably watching Waterboy. But I could be in the mood for Coach Carter. That's the thing. It's so complicated because you gotta be like, well, I mean, is it basketball season or is it football season? Do I want to laugh a lot or do I want to watch something that's actually got some content? The Waterboy is just a bunch of stupid, like, yes, it's the story of the mud dogs making it to the bourbon bowl. You can do it, you can do it!
SPEAKER_00:But oh, we suck again!
SPEAKER_01:I'm just picking a movie personally that I like more. You know? I have to go coach Carter.
SPEAKER_02:I can concede that.
SPEAKER_01:I have to remember the Titans or Moneyball?
SPEAKER_02:I Titans. Gotta give it to the Titans.
SPEAKER_01:Me too. So then our final in this side of the brackets, Coach Carter or Remember the Titans.
SPEAKER_02:And I'm giving it to the Titans. I am too. And I knew that from the beginning.
SPEAKER_01:I kinda did too. You could you kind of could see that one coming with that. Yeah. See, and for me, like the content of the movie, obviously, this is also a Disney movie.
SPEAKER_02:I might watch that tonight after this. I might watch Remember the Titans too.
SPEAKER_01:So, fun fact right now, both of the movies that we have in the finals, Miracle and Remember the Titans, are both Disney.
SPEAKER_02:That's awesome.
SPEAKER_01:So, like I said, the amount of good sports movies that Disney has made or Disney has been a part of, not only these two, the Mighty Ducks movies, I believe there was a couple other ones in here that were also from the Disney kind of umbrella. And yes, they're corny. Yes, they're not, you know. I'm sure her I actually I know for a fact that her brooks didn't talk exactly like he did in the America movie. He was like a motherfucker and a cocksucker, and he was swearing up and down.
SPEAKER_02:Well, he was from Evelith.
SPEAKER_01:Hearing, yeah, and hearing hearing from people what he was actually like as a human being in his vocabulary was nothing like it was in the movie. Okay. And I I'm sure a lot of people up here where we're from know that. So let's let's put that out there for and a football coach from the South, you can definitely get almost guarantee that he didn't talk like Denzel did in that movie. Now, there is another good point, two of the leading guys in these movies, Herb Brooks was played by Kurt Russell, one of the biggest actors of the time of the movie coming out. And then remember the Titans was Denzel Washington, also one of the biggest actors ever. Not to mention Ryan Hurst was in that movie, Wood Harris was in that movie, Bill Paxton was in that movie, a young Hayden Penetier was in that movie. Bill Paxton. I mean, there was a lot of that his name? Bill Paxton.
SPEAKER_02:No, no. It's the other guy. Not Bill Paxton.
SPEAKER_01:Who played Yoast?
SPEAKER_02:Yep, that's I know who you're talking about.
SPEAKER_01:Will Patton. Will Patton.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:That was kind of close. But like there's a lot of big names in that movie, and then you look at the Miracle movie, and there was Kurt Russell, and then there was a bunch of guys that were hockey players that they made into actors. Yep. So those two movies have a lasting impression on me from when we were younger in high school, in middle school. So you could pick either one of them here, Miracle or Remember the Titans, and you're not you're not wrong. No. Like you're just you're not. You're gonna have your hockey fans picking Miracle, you're gonna have your football fans picking Remember the Titans, you know, you're you're gonna have your Homers from the Iron Range picking a miracle because of all the guys that were from around here and the coach from up here. So I for me, the speeches in the movie and the way that they ran to Gettysburg, and you know, well, it remember the Titans had Ryan Gosling, a young Ryan Gosling. They had a young Ethan Supley Supply. They had Supley Supply. The dude that played in Scrubs for so long.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I just looked at his name. Yeah, I just looked at his name and I can't remember. Phase on. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Something phase on.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I mean, there was a lot of young actors in that movie, and that young Hayden Penetier, I mean, she was like eight. She was fucking just tiny.
SPEAKER_02:She was so good in that movie.
SPEAKER_01:And Ryan Hearst before he was Opie on Sons of Anarchy. I mean, for me personally, I would probably pick Remember the Titans.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Not well, like exactly what you said. Hockey is gonna pick Miracle, football is gonna pick Remember the Titans.
SPEAKER_01:I can't go wrong with either one.
SPEAKER_02:If I zoom out, it's like a win-win situation, no matter which one wins.
SPEAKER_01:So, I mean, we're gonna have some people that listen to this that'll be like, what the fuck are these two talking? Well, these two don't know shit about shit. And that's fine. You can say that all you want. We really don't care. But for me and for him, for us, for this podcast, we're picking Remember the Titans for the champion of our greatest sports movie of all time, bracket. Uh, just to go over it again quick, our semifinals were Warrior and Miracle. Miracle edged out Warrior. Warrior was another fantastic movie, like we talked about. The other semifinal was Coach Carter and Remember the Titans. Now, another fun fact of this is those four movies, three of them were based on true events. So maybe that's kind of a something that we we enjoy also is the based on true events stuff. The Sandlot. I think if the Sandlot was in any other part of the bracket, away from Miracle or Remember the Titans, that would have been in our semifinal. And maybe if I don't know. What's another one that could have been Moneyball was almost there, Happy Gilmore was almost there. Space Jam wasn't a terrible movie. It's just I think it's overrated just because of Michael Jordan and the era that it came out in. The second one sucked.
SPEAKER_02:It's got Dotson in it.
unknown:Dotson.
SPEAKER_00:We got Dotson here. Dotson! Dotson here!
SPEAKER_02:I know it's not Dotson, but he says Dotson. So see, no one cares.
SPEAKER_01:Remember the Titans is the the champion of our greatest sports movie of all time. If you guys can think of any other great sports movies, definitely shoot us a message or comment or whatever you want to do. I'm sure there's way more sports movies out there that we didn't even cover that weren't in this bracket. Oh yeah. Off the top of my head, I can't really think of any, honestly.
SPEAKER_02:The replacements. Oh, yeah, replacement. Any given Sunday. Any given Sunday. Two for the money. Major League. Major League.
SPEAKER_01:The Rookie. Love of the Game, Field of Dreams. What's another one? There's gotta be more football ones. Bull Durham for baseball, too. That wasn't in here. Hoosiers wasn't in here. Above the Rim. He got game, love and basketball. I mean, there's there the program is one of my favorite football movies. So there are there are quite a few, actually, now that I think about it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you think about it for a minute.
SPEAKER_01:There's a bunch, but and we'll we're gonna next week what we're gonna do, and we'll probably start the process here once we end the recording. We're gonna do a top five Disney Disney slash Disney Channel movies.
SPEAKER_02:Are we gonna restrict that to sports movies or are we just gonna No, we can just do Disney Disney movies, Disney real Disney movies.
SPEAKER_01:So live action Disney movies.
SPEAKER_02:Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Not Disney Channel movies.
SPEAKER_02:Not ri not restricted. You can include Disney Channel movies, man.
SPEAKER_01:Disney channel or Disney live action movies. Now I'm gonna say right now that is gonna take out your most recent ones like Beauty and the Beast, yes, Lilo and Stitch, those ones. Yes. So we're gonna take those out. We're just gonna go with everything else. So next week, instead of a bracket or tears or um blind rankings, we're gonna do that for for this portion of the show. If you have any if you want to shout out any or you want to give us any sort of ideas, shoot us a message, give us give us some content there. That'd be awesome. Uh, don't forget to log in and check us out with that next week. Also, we'll talk about other sports stuff going on. I know we'll probably touch on the Vikings game after, since we're gonna be sitting here. I'll talk about my first week of basketball as a junior varsity coach for the girls. Probably talk about what's coming up for Friendsgiving, since that's gonna be our next holiday here coming up as Thanksgiving. Could probably talk about our favorite Thanksgiving food, because I love Thanksgiving food.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, yeah.
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