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Bastu Boys
We Argue Football Rules, Fix Schools, And Crown The Best Billion-Dollar Movie
Two dads riff on local sports, a new JV coaching role, and why participation rises and falls, then go deep on NFL rules, education reform, and fair business boundaries. We end with a billion-dollar movie bracket and crown The Dark Knight over Jurassic Park.
• JV coaching announcement and section pride
• Volleyball semifinals, football state qualifiers, winter sports start dates
• JV boys swim coach opening and program growth
• Vikings-Lions recap, officiating standards, catch rule clarity
• Playoffs versus draft pick strategy and NFC outlook
• Youth sports pipeline, early access, and numbers drop
• Attendance grading debate and core-to-career high school model
• Parents’ role, overdiagnosis concerns, communication and life skills
• Customer boundaries, expectations, and service balance
• Billion-dollar movie bracket with final pick
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SPEAKER_04:I just started in the middle of that. You're so loud. What's this? Looks like a Rasseed. Clafton skate.
SPEAKER_00:Four hundred and twenty-six dollars? That's how much ice skates are.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. Did she rent them or buy them? Buy them. Why?
SPEAKER_04:Is she gonna be? It's okay. It was$185 off. Oh yeah. Girl math. She saved$185.
SPEAKER_01:What the fuck? Bedtime. That's you. It's my bedtime alarm. So you're telling me that is she oh hold on. Hold on. So she bought ice skates. Yes. Now is is she gonna use these ice skates for the rest of her life? Well, yeah, probably.
SPEAKER_04:I don't think she's growing anymore. She these the ones she had were legitimately too small, so just cram your feet in there.
SPEAKER_01:That's what I had to do. No, it hurts.
SPEAKER_04:I know it hurts, but it's not hockey. If it was hockey, I would have made her wear them, but what you doing? Reading Josh's comment finally. I've been waiting to read it to see what he said. Oh, on the Vikings game? Yeah. When he said the Vikings were abysmal. And then I said what did I say? I said something else, and then I said to be fair, I was just as negative at the beginning.
SPEAKER_01:But they were winning the whole time. Anyway, welcome back. Sunday evening. Daylight savings. Oh, that was brilliant.
SPEAKER_04:Like when I woke up this morning, I was like, Wow. Rested. Feels good. I hate daylight savings. I think it's stupid. Me too. Everybody does. That's the one thing the entire country agrees on, and we still can't fucking pass the law to get rid of it.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you know, I don't understand why, but it is what it is. We can't pass anything. Did you ever watch that Anthony Mackey interview when he's on that talk show and he talks about it's a woman interviewer? She's interviewing him. And it's pretty much along the lines of, you know, uh if a guy touches you when we're out, what do you expect him to do? You know, knock him out. Or if a guy says something to you that's disrespectful or derogatory, what do you expect him to do? You expect him to say something, right? I told you this is what was gonna happen with that fucking cord. I can't find the longer one.
SPEAKER_04:It's probably right there, but I didn't look hard enough.
SPEAKER_01:And he's like, Well, yeah, and then you know, what about if I want a sandwich? Well, you're gonna make daddy a sandwich, and everybody claps. So I that's that's what that interaction reminded me of. Do you need me to find you the longer chord? No, that was good.
SPEAKER_04:You can't move your mic anymore. I don't need to. This is as far back as I want it to be, anyway. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:So welcome back to the Boss Two Boys podcast for the second week in a row. We are on schedule Sunday evening uh recording, which is two weeks. Two weeks in a row. That's consecutive. That is a record record. It's a brand new record. It is definitely something we're gonna keep striving for here. What time do the Vikings play next week? I believe it's at noon again because they play at home against Baltimore. So it should be at noon, Central Standard Time.
SPEAKER_04:So we'll probably get three weeks in a row as long as neither one of us is busy.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and I I don't have basketball on Sundays, it's it's illegal. So Sundays is e is easily the best day. Illegal. Well, it's frowned upon. Coaches can't be a part of it. Yeah. So I can't be a part of it. Right. So that's also news that I haven't told on the podcast. I recently got hired as the new junior varsity coach at our local high school. Very excited. The whole new coaching staff uh for that, junior high, JB, and varsity. I'm not gonna say who got the varsity job just because we don't like to use names and we don't know if he wants me to say it. And I'm pretty sure if you listen or you know who I or you know us or you're from the area, uh, you know who he is. Coming back home coaching these girls, I think he's gonna do a fantastic job. I'm very excited to see what he does. I'm very excited for the opportunity to coach with him. So yeah, that's my new venture. I'm I got uh that job going from junior high to junior varsity. So I I'm very grateful for the opportunity to be able to do that and uh the trust of the school and the parents and the the other coaches and whatnot. So that's my news. Well, that's super cool. I'm in thank you. I appreciate that. Uh I've I've I've I've put a lot of time and effort and sweat and tears and money and focus and stuff like that the last 10 years uh into the program. So I'm I'm excited to move up a level and give a little bit more time and effort and stuff like that. So yeah. It's just it's it's all overall exciting. We can just jump right into kind of local sports, all over exciting. Our varsity girls team lost in the section semifinals to Floodwood for volleyball. For volleyball. Uh Floodwood has a stud. She was, yeah, that girl's really good. She's going division two to UMD. Yeah. I mean, she's she's legit. She probably could go play lower level division one and probably even probably at Minnesota. She probably could. At the university, yeah. She's very, very talented. She's she's very good. She's coached well, her team plays well. I mean, she's the focal point. They did lose in the section final to Northwoods. Fucking dogs.
SPEAKER_04:I hope that's on here. Look at this. This is a this is something new. I'm not used to this. Take a picture. Take a picture. This is something that's brand new. I've this so strange to me. Do you know why? Because she loves me. Yeah, it is. Where's my water? Thank you. You didn't bring the chips either. You're supposed to bring chips. Cooler ranch? The big bag of Cooler Ranch.
SPEAKER_01:I'm not gonna complain. Thank you. I appreciate that. Nice. Love you. I appreciate that, Ashley. Thank you. It's the first thing I've eaten all day.
SPEAKER_04:You want to know what it's like to sit next to my wife eating McDonald's french fries?
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SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay, Dad.
SPEAKER_04:Alright, where were we? Local sports, girls volleyball, chisholm out. Beat by Floodwoods, stud on their team, go into UMD. Probably could play D1 low level if she tried, or even maybe not. She's really good. She is very good. She hates Chisholm. Chisholm out, Floodwood finals against Northwoods. Northwoods won. Good job, Northwoods.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, good luck. Congratulations and good luck, I should say. Football state, Barnum won single single A for our section. Barnum won. Yeah, they're really good. Nice. Moose Lake won seven double A. I think Piers won 3A. And Cook County won nine man section seven. Nice. So it's good to see them back at state. I always root for section seven when they go down there. Obviously, because we're in section seven. So basketball starts soon. So that'll start on the 10th. Boy swimming will start I think they don't start till like after Thanksgiving.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, they can do captain's practice, but their actual practice starts the last week of November, I think. So like the the week of Thanksgiving? Yeah, because their first meet is always the relay meet on it's usually that first Friday or Saturday in December.
SPEAKER_01:Oh I just thought that was really late when Gavin told me that. So I guess I should have talked to you or Patrick about it. So for those of you that are local and you were swimmers in high school, they are looking for a JV boys swim coach in our school in Chisholm. Nice. So if you're interested, go ahead and apply for that. Their varsity coach is one of he's pretty cool. I like him. Goofy, but definitely knows his things, his things about swimming, from what I've seen and what I've been told. Oh yeah. Growing program. It is a growing program.
SPEAKER_04:It's always been a goddamn program and it will always be a growing program.
SPEAKER_01:When you don't start swimming until you're in like junior high, because they don't let the they don't have the elementary kids doing it anymore. That's what's gonna happen to your s any sports program. If we didn't have if we didn't have basketball until you were in seventh and eighth grade, you wouldn't have kids coming out for basketball at all. Oh yeah. And that's boys and girls. For I mean, that's why our football numbers are so low because you can't play football other than flag football until you're in seventh grade. You put pads on in seventh grade. I mean it you don't you don't see the turnout that you would see at other schools that have it for an elementary program too. And I d I don't think I don't think sports are as promoted in school anymore. Like when we were in school. Oh yeah. I th I think it's more of a a burden on parents for whatever reason. I I and I'm not speaking for all parents because maybe it's maybe it's a financial thing, maybe it's a a ride thing, maybe it's uh interesting. I d I don't know, but it it just it seems like it's fallen off so bad. It's it's hard to fathom. Like when we were in school 20 some years ago, you were almost expected as a boy to at least play one year of tackle football in seventh grade, like you were expected to go out for the team, and if you didn't like it, you didn't like it. If you didn't like it, you didn't like it, you didn't then you didn't play it. I mean, basketball is a little bit different. We had Saturday basketball programs that shit, we had 50, 60 kids in the gym for some for like three grades. I mean, it was crazy. Boys and girls, it wasn't just on the boys' side. But like I've told other coaches, uh I mean, success breeds numbers. Like if you see success as a younger kid, you're gonna you want to be a part of that success. You want to you want to be a part of that program. Uh, and parents see it, and uh the school sees it and they they they promote that that sport more. I've seen that with volleyball a lot. And I started seeing it with basketball on the girls' side a lot. So, I mean it I don't know. And some parents still treat it like a babysitting service when they're young, which is the shitty thing too. But anyway. So state volleyball, state football is gonna be going on here soon. Basketball's gonna start for boys and girls.
SPEAKER_04:We sent a couple cross-country girls to state.
SPEAKER_01:We did, oh yes, thank you for that reminder. We did send a couple cross-country girls to state, they did phenomenal. One's a 11th grader, one's a 10th grader. The 10th grader's been going to state for the past couple years. I think she went as an eighth and a ninth grader, and then the the 11th grader went last year, I believe, as 10th grader. I believe one of them got 31st place, and one of them got like 52nd. And I think top 35 get all state. So, and and these two girls are phenomenal kids. Like good students, good athletes. They're almost a model student. The 11th graders and PSEO. She's going for a new the nursing program. They come from great families too. I mean, they're they're I've known that we've known their parents forever. Really excited for them, cross-country. And then when it leads into track, both of them play basketball. They've been three sport athletes for forever, so which is good. They're they're great kids, good students. And congratulations on going to state and placing where you did. Do you have the did you look up the results or no? Mm-mm. No. I I'm sure I could find it, and I just I'm pretty positive on the placing of those two. Vikings won today. Squeaked one out against the Lions. It was very, very surprising. I was not optimistic about that at all. And I listened to it on the radio. I didn't watch it live. But from what I could hear from Paul Allen and Versich, the Lions were going through the same kind of stuff that we do with just getting decimated by injuries on that offensive line. Our defense played well, from what I could hear. The officials messed up a couple more calls. The game would have been different if that holding call wouldn't have happened on that kick return. If they would have called that interception an interception like it was, that swings the game. If they call that offensive pass interference on that last Lions touchdown, it's a different game. I don't know what the league has to do with these officials, but they have to do something. Yeah. They have to. You can't let this keep happening at the professional level. If these are the professional officials, they need to be held to a professional standard. Yes. And you can't what's a catch? Well, and what's a catch? What is a catch? What's an interception? I mean, what are we doing? What is the definition of a catch? Because it's it can't be there can be no gray area.
SPEAKER_04:No, it has to be either a catch or not a catch. There's no kind of a catch. It's always it it you have to establish what the rules are. Like we talked about, I think I went on this rant two, two or three episodes ago. Yep.
SPEAKER_01:With Hawkinson's catch in the end zone.
SPEAKER_04:If you you can agree either all or nothing. If the ball touches the ground, is it incomplete? Or is if the ball touches the ground and he has control, is it complete? It's like then it adds the other gray area. Well, what's control? If his hand is wrapped around the ball, or does he need two hands on the ball, or does he need a hand and a body on the ball? Or what like you have to establish all those little nuances in the rule before you actually make the rule a rule. So it's like I personally think they should simplify it and say, if the ball touches the ground at any point, it's not a catch. That's my that's my opinion. If you want to simplify it and make it real simple, if the ball, I don't care if they have both hands on the ball, if the ball touches the ground at any point throughout the catch landing or otherwise, it's incomplete.
SPEAKER_01:That's coming from a lineman, guys. Yes, just so just so you know. So if I catch a if I catch a football like this, and the nose of the ball is right here, yep, and I'm falling backwards. Yep. And the nose and I have if at any point the any part of the ground, it's incomplete.
SPEAKER_04:Even though it never comes out of my hands. Correct. It's harsh, but that you're not A, you're not gonna run into that a lot, a lot, right? It's not a super frequent thing.
SPEAKER_01:The way that people, or I shouldn't say people, the way that athletes or football players, college football, high school, NFL, the way that they catch the ball now is more body catches than with their hands. Yeah. So some people will catch the ball and fall forward, say, and the nose of the ball, after they've been falling, hits the ground. You're saying that's not a catch.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, I'm saying you have to prevent the ball from touching the ground at all costs.
SPEAKER_01:I think that would be- You have to have something where everybody can go, okay, look, you have to catch it like this, and you have to fall like this, so it's not an incompletion.
SPEAKER_04:If I mean, it's as simple as just saying don't let the ball touch the ground. Get your arm under it, get your hands under it, get your body under it, use the other player. I don't even care. It's like I mean, I can get behind if it's a if it's a rule and it's for everybody, and I can definitely get behind it. And I think it would simplify calls and I think it would make it a little more interesting. And what's a football move?
SPEAKER_01:That see, that would completely eliminate that. So if I catch the ball and I take two steps and uh and the ball just flies out of my hands, that's a fumble. Yes. That's a fumble. Yes. If I catch the ball on a hitch or a comeback, I think turn around.
SPEAKER_04:That's a football move. I also think a football move is too ambiguous. They need to emph they need to elaborate on what a football move is. Is it is it one and a half steps? Is it two steps? Is it a step and a juke? Is it a step and a dive? Is it a twist and a turn and a shitty shitty shake shake?
SPEAKER_01:Is it falling?
SPEAKER_04:Because that's a football move. Yeah, exactly. If you catch a ball in the fade and you're in and you're in the air, then you're falling forwards or backwards or wherever you're gonna do it. Sideways or diving or whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Is that a football move? So if I catch a ball in the back of the end zone, like I just showed you with the Powerade bottle, my feet are in and the and I catch it, never touches the ground, but then I roll and the ball comes out, that's an incompletion.
SPEAKER_04:By today's standards, yes, it is. But is it? In my in my personal opinion, it's not. By the NFL's rules, it it would be an incompletion because he wouldn't have had the opportunity to make a football move if he was full extension, two feet in the corner of the end zone, and he's falling this way.
SPEAKER_01:No, is Travis Kelsey catching that ball?
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, well, that's I mean, that's where we're talking. It's it's subjective.
SPEAKER_01:It's not the NFL didn't want the Vikings to beat the Lions today. No. They didn't. No, they didn't. They did not. So I mean, and I don't and it's not a conspiracy, and I've heard many, many, many, many, many sports people say football's more interesting when the Chiefs are winning, when the Bills are winning, when the Cowboys are winning, when the Giants are winning, when the Packers are winning. But I'm just saying these big market these big market teams, the NFL is more interesting and more people are watching when they're winning and being successful, which sucks. But then you've got little like Jacksonville. When Jacksonville and the Patriots were in the AFC championship game, the only reason people fucking watched it is because Tom Brady was there. Yep. If that would have been Jacksonville and the Browns, nobody would have fucking watched that. No.
SPEAKER_04:And I'm guilty of that too. When it's two uninteresting teams playing a playoff game or in the Super Bowl, I'm just like define uninteresting. I I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:You don't like an underdog story? I love an underdog story. So you you didn't watch if Jacksonville would have made it to that Super Bowl that year and beat the Patriots. I think that was either that was either the Rams Super Bowl or the Falcons Super Bowl. I can't remember which one it is. You wouldn't have watched Jacksonville play them.
SPEAKER_04:So under it's subjective because I would have watched that. That's interesting. Philly, I'm opposite. Philly, Kansas City, Super Bowl. I'm not watching that. Like I I've seen it. It's I've seen this episode before. Yeah, I want to see something new. Yeah. And me being a Vikings fan, you know what, honestly, even if it was Detroit or the Pac or any of the NFC North teams, I'm 100% inviting in that Super Bowl. I do too. But the same old, same old Steelers, Ravens, it like Rams, Rams, Chiefs, Chiefs, even the Bills, Philly, Bills, it's all like, oh yeah, that's a good team, you know? And it's like, let's get, let's uh it it kind of rides on the coattails of my whole retire and get the fuck out thing. Let's have some new blood. Let's get some new things going on. I want to see something that I haven't seen before. That's why I like the NBA right now because there hasn't been a repeat champion in so long. That's wonderful. That's absolutely I love love non-dynasty sports. I I like when the Yankees, I hated baseball when the Yankees were winning. I hated I hated the Patriots when they won all the Super Bowl, when Tom Brady was just kicking absolute ass. Although I did I did like watching like Teddy Bruski on defense, those early Patriot teams, yes, yeah, and the offensive line just phenomenal. Like I loved watching that shit. But it gets old. It's just the same story over when the Red Sox were unstoppable. Yeah. I'm like, well, Poppy's gonna hit a grand slam, they're gonna win by nine points.
SPEAKER_01:There goes there goes Manny. There goes Pedroya. Let's bring in Pedro. It's you know, and I'm starting to feel like that with the Dodgers, even though I hate to switch it over to baseball real quick, but that was probably one of the most entertaining World Series that I've watched ever. Ever. Ever.
SPEAKER_04:I didn't watch it. It was you're not much of a baseball watcher. I'm not. I'm not even much of a baseball fan. Like, I mean, I like I played softball and actually tangent. Next summer we need to play wiffle ball in the yard. Yes. Instead of playing softball. We're gonna do Thursday nights. We're gonna do golf, though. Yes. We need to do golf too.
SPEAKER_01:We'll figure it out. We'll we'll make a schedule. Yeah. But this this NFL thing, like, I'm done here. No, how about uh and I'm done hearing about how Patrick Mahomes is like the best quarterback ever already because he's not. You look at Brady's early success with those teams, Brady did a lot more with a lot less. He just did. And football was different. It's the same argument that you can have with LeBron and Michael Jordan. The game was different, the rules were different, the money was different, the coaching was different. The I mean, defenses can't fucking touch anybody now in the NFL. No, you can't even breathe on a guy unless you're the Lions and you get to push the defender down.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. So I mean did it's what did Paul Allen say about the kick? When he blocked it? No, JJ got kicked. Um I didn't I don't remember. Oh, it was a it was a 15-yard penalty, unnecessary roughness. The guy was getting blocked, and he like he like left his feet while he was getting blocked, and JJ was in the pocket, and he he swung his leg and kicked JJ right in the right knee, like in the top of the right knee. The ref saw it, and it was it was blatant. Like he swung his leg to try and kick JJ's legs. So he might be facing a fine. I'm sure he will. Yeah. I'm sure he will.
SPEAKER_01:Which he should. You can do that. You don't do that. Yeah, don't kick. You just you can't do that. No, you can't. But it it's it was nice to see the fight that the Vikings had today. Or here, I should say here for me. It was so good. It was so nice to see some blocking on offense. Having those bookend tackles is huge. And I talked about this at the beginning of the year. Darissau and O'Neill, when healthy, are one of the best tackle tandems in the world. They make they make our offense. I mean they really do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04:They really, really do. Outside of, yes, our skills players, JJ. Can't do anything with you can't they they can't JJ.
SPEAKER_01:They can't do anything without line play. Aaron Jones. Aaron Jones is hurt again. Uh no. But a football team is gonna go as far as their offensive and defensive line is gonna take them. It's just how it is. I know everybody wants to talk about you know, JJ or Justin Jefferson and Addison and all the weapons that we have, because we have top five weapons in the NFL very easily, but if we have a bottom five offensive line, it doesn't it doesn't fucking matter. It doesn't matter. Yeah. So uh I was n it was nice to see like Javon Hargrave had a great game. That's probably his best game since the Bears game. Uh Ginkle was back, which is my man. I fucking love that guy. I wish Harry recovered that fumble. Harry got that fumble, Gernard played well, uh Cashman had I heard 14 tackles in that first fumble or that fumble recovery. I don't remember which one. Rogers had a good game. I just our schedule is so hard moving forward. Like next week we have the Ravens, and Lamar Jackson is has like two losses ever against the NFC. But and it's it's gonna be two desperate teams, you know, trying to get it the to write the ship to stay on track for the playoffs. Now, this is another thing I was gonna ask you for and then I'll give you my opinion on it too. Would you rather have a team, would you rather have the Vikings get second or third in our division, make make the wild card round, or be a wild card team and have a later pick in the draft, or would you rather have them not make the playoffs, be at the bottom of the division, and get a higher draft pick? How how how do you how do you feel about either one of those?
SPEAKER_04:Ask me when it's later in the season.
SPEAKER_01:Because I mean, if McCarthy can play the way he's gonna be.
SPEAKER_04:If you would have asked me this before the game today, I would have said draft pick. Yeah. But after seeing that we are somewhat capable, ask me later on the season.
SPEAKER_01:Of beating an elite team. Yes, don't get Detroit's they're good. They're fucking good. Yes. They're in the NFC Championship game last year. Yep. They're a lot of people predicted them to be in the NFC Championship game again or make the Super Bowl. Yeah. So I mean, beating them shows at home in Detroit, where we never play well. I think KOC's one and three there. Yeah. So I mean that shows that we can be just as physical and just as good as the top tier NFC teams. It really does. Now, would it have helped Detroit if they were healthy? Of course. Of course it would. Of course it would.
SPEAKER_04:That's a given.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, that's everybody. That's every team. But now that you're at the point of the season that we're in now, everybody's banged up. Everybody's hurt. And you know, even going towards the playoffs, you see how much depth you have. So me, I I'm one of the more real, I'm one of the most realistic Viking fans that people probably would ever run into. Yep. I could see them still making the NFC Championship game if they played like they did today. Correct. Because they can upset anybody at home. And now that we beat Detroit in Detroit, we know we can play there.
SPEAKER_04:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:Now we if we can go to Lambo and beat Green Bay in Lambo, same thing. Now I think we're 500 now, four and four. I think is our record. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. So if we can get to maybe ten and six. If we can get to ten and six, I think that that I think we make the playoffs.
SPEAKER_04:Oh yeah. I'm like I said, the the question about draft picker playoffs, like I said, if if we're if we're progressing down the down the season well and we're playing like we played today, then yeah, I I would love to see them. I would love to see them in the playoffs and make a run at it. If we lose the next three games, then hell no. I want to see draft picks and I want to see investment in the team for next year.
SPEAKER_01:Yep. Which is a bummer because we are one of the oldest teams in the league. Yeah. We need to get younger on defense. We just do. We do. I love Harrison Smith.
SPEAKER_04:Well, yeah, and we're slowly improving year over year. I mean, we're Getting players. How old's Metellus? He's young.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. He's young. Ginkle. Ginkle's like he's in his mid. He's in his thirties. Yeah, he's mid. He's in his 30s. Harry's old. He's my age or your age. I think it might be 36. I think Ginkle's 30, 31. Gernard's the same age. Hargroves or Hargraves the same age. They're all in their late 20s, early 30s, which is by NFL standards, old. But I think we can make a run if we get the if we can get a wild card even if we're the seven or the six. Yeah. I think we can go to Tampa Bay and win. I think we could go to Detroit and win. I think we could go to I think we can go to Green Bay and win. I mean, I I really, really do. If we can s if our bookend tackles can stay healthy, and our defense can stop giving up the big play, stop giving up the over-the-top throw, I think we can beat them. I think if we have a healthy offensive line, I think that game with Philadelphia is different. I really do. Philly's good. I think Philly's probably the most complete team in in the conference. Seeing that Green Bay lost to Carolina today, a lot of my faith in Green Bay is gone. It really is. And then having Chicago get in a shootout with Cincinnati, I mean that's terrible. Yeah. Because they're not good. I mean, Joe Flacco's Joe Flacco, but to to let Cincinnati score that many points and then I mean it it that it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good at all. So hopefully we can stay healthy and keep moving, keep improving, and contain Lamar Jackson next week. That'll be key. That's gonna be really, really huge for us. So let's see. Uh what else do I have here? I think that's it for sports, really. Skull! Skull. Skull, baby skull. Just looking at some some current event topics, some hot conversations, hot takes, reading on the Google machine here. There is a hot take here, and I'm gonna get your opinion on it right now. Class attendance in school should not reflect a kid's grade. So public school, say your daughter doesn't want to go to class, that shouldn't reflect her grade.
SPEAKER_04:Doesn't that by default affect their grade?
SPEAKER_01:This is this is a current event topic right now in the United States. So by hello.
SPEAKER_04:Little little close. So by default, not going to class would affect your grade. I don't I I don't see the need to score attendance after like elementary school, right? Because elementary school, you get the softball grade for attendance, you get an S or an S plus or an N or whatever. And it's like if you made it 90% of the time to school, you get that little check mark in the attendance box. Right. Once you hit middle school, junior high, high school, I don't see the need to grade on attendance because the content of the class by default will give you the grade you earn. Because if you're not there, you're not learning and you're not getting the grades, so you're gonna end up with zeros or F's on your assignments, and then you're gonna fail the class. So that my opinion is So attendance by itself. You're not saying like I'm not I'm what I'm saying is no, I don't think there should be a grade for attendance. Kind of like how they do it in college. Yeah, yeah. 100%. There should not be you shouldn't be scored on attendance. You should be required to go to school. In the same breath, it is a requirement for you to be in school in class. That is part of the requirement of school.
SPEAKER_01:It's also teaching kids that you have to get up and go to work.
SPEAKER_04:And as a child, a non-adult, a non-rights holding citizen of the United States of America, like I love how you said that. When when you are when you are young, you are under 18, you have the least amount of rights you will ever have in your life because you have your parents that get to essentially rule over you and make the rules. And also you have the institutions that rule over you and make the rules. That's kind of like you're you're like that your whole life because the government makes the laws as an adult. But yes, you have to fucking go to school. It's not it's not an option where it's like, I'm taking a mental health day today. No, no. You need to go to school, go to class, learn what you're what you're learning. I mean, if you wanted to get into an hours-long conversation, we can talk about class content and and like what we're actually teaching our kids nowadays and and what should be required and shouldn't be required, because I'm big on the STEM classes. I love STEM classes, but I also respect and understand that there are a lot of people out there that STEM isn't gonna be their life. It their life is gonna be arts and entertainment and leisure, it's not gonna be anything to do with STEM classes.
SPEAKER_01:And so I think they should bring back, and we'll we're gonna actually get in this right now. I think that they should bring back where you get enough you can get enough credits to have to for graduation by your tenth grade year or even eleventh grade year. But then you're able to take electives towards your alleged career choice. So if say that that girl that's that went to state for cross-country, she wants to be in nursing, she wants to be a nurse. Yeah, there should be a high school course or courses, or going somewhere in the school where they're gonna teach nursing 101 or welding 101 or accounting 101. Like that should still be in school. Like you retain a lot of kids instead of them going off to PSEO where you lose that money as a school district. People don't understand that. PSEO kids, you lose the money for the school district because they're no longer technically going to school. And if you have those courses in high school and you have those teachers that are versed in that, it'll retain kids. It'll get probably get more kids to come to your school eventually.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah. And I think that's a profound change that we could we could do with the education system and make it more of make high school more into college style where kids are choosing like a junior college almost. Like like where kids are choosing the classes that what they want to take. Don't get me wrong, I'm not abandoning the fact that STEM is the foundation of pretty much everything outside of arts. I mean band, choir, yes, drama. You do not need to know, and and I like I'm hardcore STEM, as I said, and I'll be the first to admit, you don't need to be a scientist, a mathematician. You don't need to have any of those base skills if you're going into performance arts or acting or anything like that. However, to function in today's society, you do need a very basic foundation of at least math. At least math. You don't need chemistry, you don't need physics, you don't even need like earth science or life science per se. I think the way that we have our education system set up where it's pretty broad field, you starting in seventh grade, it's fairly broad field until you know ninth or tenth grade, and then and then it becomes a little bit more acute and you get to focus in more on what what you want to do as a kid or what your parents are quote unquote going to make you do. So I don't know. I I don't I I like talking a lot, but I just because I talk a lot doesn't mean I think that I'm right all the time and have all the answers. But if if I were to snap my fingers and say that this is what I think would be a good direction to go, is you offer foundational math and science. You offer foundational grammar and English in the earlier high school years, ninth and tenth grade, and then 11th and 12th grade. People should focus more on what they're growing into as people.
SPEAKER_01:I mean because normally as a nor normally, I shouldn't say normally, a lot of the people or the girls, I should say. I'll just use the basketball team as an example. A lot of them know what they want to do by their 11th grade year. Well, yeah, they think they know what they want to do. And that's what they're willing to invest their time in. Correct. Yes. So if you have those things offered to them, I think you would have a higher success rate with 100% stuff. 100%.
SPEAKER_04:People would be more successful. Another note on the education system. Oh boy, here we go. Yeah, you started it. Our basic understanding of the world around us is starting to it's bad. Deteriorate. It is in the middle of deterioration, if not towards the end of deterioration.
SPEAKER_01:Do you think that there's too much pushed on kids?
SPEAKER_04:No, in public there's I think no. No. I I think there are too many distractions, and I think there are too many too many outs that kids have that they can make excuses to not do what's required of them. I don't know, man. I think that if you struggle with learning, you get the help you need. There are several resources that all public schools have access to for learning disabled individuals.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and and that's a lot on the school too. Yes. It's a lot on the school, it's a lot on the parents. But I also think But I also think parents are too quick to jump towards little Johnny has a learning problem.
SPEAKER_04:No, that's exactly what I was just gonna say. I was I was gonna say learning disabilities are are way over-diagnosed. Way over-diagnosed. If a kid doesn't want to do math, he's not gonna do math, and then you like you can take him to six different psychologists' shrinks, whatever you want to call them, you can take him to six different doctors of psychiatry or psychology, and you'll get six different diagnoses. Yep. Depending on what that kid is saying to the psych at each appointment. And it's it's really difficult because you don't want to be, you don't want to be so harsh that you're minimizing what the kid is feeling, and that you're not you're not providing the right guidance and tools for the kid to succeed, but you have to, as the parent, you should know the kid. Yeah. Right? Parents know their kids, yes, right. You live with them, you raise them, you you you love them, you care for them, you provide for them. You know them. If you don't know them, you're kind of a shitty parent. I can agree with that. Yeah. I can agree with that. If you don't know your kids, you're a shitty parent. But that's your job as a parent, then, to know your kid and say, all right, well, this I'm just gonna say she because I have a daughter. Like, she's really struggling right now. What's the deal? What's been going on? Yeah, what's why is she struggling? It does she actually need extra help outside of the normal classroom, or is she distracted by something, or is she being lazy, or what what is what is it? And as a parent, that's your job to identify that. It's not that like teachers do a fuckload of stuff for us. Oh god, teachers underpaid, underappreciated. They do enough. Parents need to step up, buck up buttercup, learn, learn your kids' behaviors, invest in your kids' education and care about what they're doing in school.
SPEAKER_01:And it's not always the teacher's or the administration's fault.
SPEAKER_04:No, there's a lot of times where the kid is just like, hey, I there I've had several several times in my life with my daughter where it's like she is digging in and she is not gonna move. And as a parent, you have to choose which battles you're really not gonna back down on and which battles you can afford to just let her be a teenager.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and you and you know, the school systems, a lot of them like they move these kids on so they don't have to deal with them.
SPEAKER_04:Yes, that does happen.
SPEAKER_01:I and I think it happens more now than than when we were in school or before that. You see these kids struggling, and and being I'm around a lot of high school kids. I've been around a lot of junior high kids, you know, middle school kids. And I can pick the ones out that are hyperactive, that struggle in school, that struggle at home, that struggle with friends. You know, I can I'm pretty good at picking that out because I've been around enough young kids or kids in general, yeah, that sometimes all those kids want is to talk to somebody. Is to someone to understand them, or someone just to listen. Yep. Someone, you know, I was cussed out by a kid during football because he was mad about something at home. And all he wanted to do was vent. Yep. He didn't want to be told that he was wrong, he didn't want to be told that he his opinion didn't matter, he didn't want to be told that, you know, you know, kind of a buck up and deal with it, life's not fair type conversation. He just wanted to vent. That's all he wanted to do. Yep. And then he was great, and sometimes that's what you have to do. And I think a lot of coaches were like when we were in school or even after the fact, a lot of those coaches are psychiatrists and shrinks that kind of what they become because it's the second set of parents for a kid. And I think a lot of that power has been taken away. No, I shouldn't say power, that's the wrong word. A lot of that trust and ability has been taken away from people like that because of some parents. You know, a lot of parents say that they're not gonna do homework with their kids because that's that should have been done in school. Kids shouldn't have homework because it should have been done in school, that's a teacher's job. No, it's not. Because if it was the teacher's job, the kid would have done it in school. If they need extra help, then yes, yes, the teacher's the one that's gonna help them with the extra help. Because some some parents, I you know, I'll say it, I'll be one of the first ones to say it. I'm not very fluent in math. So I would tell my kids, hey, you gotta talk to your sister, you gotta, you gotta Google something, or you gotta talk to your friends, because I don't know shit about this, but you need to figure it out, and that creates problem solving skills for your kids. That creates problem solving skills that are gonna translate to the real world. So and I I don't think there's enough of that anymore.
SPEAKER_04:No, it's it's clear and it's it's it's apparent if you just you know pay attention to some of these kids' problem solving skills or lack thereof, or even communication, just simple communication skills.
SPEAKER_01:Like they they don't know how to talk to people. I and I don't understand that. Like I I I mean they bury themselves in a phone or in a computer or a tablet or whatever, and that's all they've ever known. And then when they have to start talking to people, like they just they don't know how. Social anxiety just it boggles my mind. It really does. Like we had to stand up in front of the class and talk when we were in school. They don't do that anymore. Because some parent complained about it that their kid gets anxiety or they get they they act out when they when they think that they're gonna have to talk in front of a group of people. Well, what what you're gonna live in your basement your whole life? Like, what do you what are we doing here?
SPEAKER_04:Some people must because it's and you know, honestly, what I have seen is like the majority of kids aren't like that. Yeah, the majority they know how to talk, even though even though they are buried in their phones a lot, they they all have their phone tendencies. I think a lot of at least my daughter's friends and peers, when I talk to them, they're not weird. You know, they're not socially awkward, they they're willing to have a word conversation face to face.
SPEAKER_01:Now, do you know what all those kids have in common? Sports.
SPEAKER_04:Exactly. Yeah, they're all athletes, or at least participate, they participate in something in athletics, or or in band or quiet. Any kind of art or extra extracurricular, yeah. Because or they have a job. Well, yeah, and if you're what you're saying, you know, they're not they're not getting that exposure in the classroom anymore. Even even like a normal, like a civics class or a history class, they're learning from YouTube on some of these things. Like in the classroom, they're learning from videos. And I think using media, multimedia, is a useful tool in education, but I don't think it should be I don't think we're leaned on as the primary source of teaching our kids things.
SPEAKER_01:I think that YouTube and history channel stuff, and I mean if it's relevant to the subject, I think it's good to watch that kind of stuff. I don't think it's necessarily what you should teach. Shouldn't be the core curriculum, it should be something that you show as an example. An enhancement to the lesson. So, like Band of Brothers, you watch that'd be yeah, a hundred percent. You watch the Battle of Bastone when you're talking about the Battle of the Bulge, or you'd watch the you know, when they jump into France for D-Day or what, you know, something like that. Or you or you watch platoon, parts of platoon for Vietnam, or you know, and I I agree. I can agree to disagree because it's so hard to teach history to get kids interested to but you have you have to be excited about it as a teacher. Like that that's another thing that I've seen a lot of they're not some teachers just aren't excited about what they teach. I mean, how exciting can you make math? Oh, you can make math pretty easy. You can. You but all jokes aside, you can. You can make history exciting, you can make homework exciting. That's what a good teacher does. That's what good educators do. Your dad was one of the best science teachers, and I I didn't I wasn't much for science, but he made it interesting to me. That's what good educators do. I mean, my college history teacher was like three and a half feet tall, and she sat on a stool, but she was so passionate about it that she made me love it even more than I already did. So I mean it and that's how and I hate to bring it back to sports, but you look at coaches, look at the best coaches. They have they all have enthusiasm, they all make it fun, they all like even if you're getting your ass kicked, like they're they're trying to make you a better person, and they're it's and I don't know, it it's hard. It's hard knowing how some of the public school stuff goes on and uh just how much it's gone downhill once it rained in November.
SPEAKER_04:Whatever. Well the more time that I spend on this planet, the more it becomes apparent that life is if you could narrow life down to one key thing that you need to focus on as an individual, it is just the word balance. It is not going too far in either direction and just maintaining equilibrium. Don't drink too much, you know. Right? For for for me, people some people don't ever drink. That's fine. I'm not saying that you need to drink, but for me, it's like I drink enough to let off some steam, have fun, kind of let loose, but I don't drink enough to where it's a problem. It's the same with teachers or coaches or bosses. You have to have the balance of strictness and you have to be organized and you have to be attentive, but too much of any of those, you're not you're not gonna be successful, right?
SPEAKER_01:Well, I wouldn't say not successful, but it's just about balance. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's it's like you know, the coach can't freak shit over everything all the time. But they also can't stand back and do nothing. Correct. But they can't be quiet, silent, or or you know, the type, well, it's okay. We'll get it next time. Hug slap hug. Yeah. Hug slap hug. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:And if the kids don't respect you and they don't they don't if the if the kids don't respect you and have no rapport with you, the they're it's a Well, you're not an effective coach, then Well, and that's gonna you're kind of leading into my next conversation piece here, and this kind of fits with the business end of stuff. Is the customer always right?
SPEAKER_04:It depends on who you're asking. But for the most part, if you're asking me, no. But there's gotta be some give and take there. Correct. From a business standpoint, you have to establish your you have to establish expectations. So that's the perfect word. Yeah, if the customers come to you and you have a blank web page and you don't really have a theme or a set cadence for your products, the customer is gonna have eight million questions. They might not even ask questions, they might just go on to the next website for whatever they're looking for. Yep. But if a customer comes to you and has either a suggestion or a request, then you, as the business owner, you need to do everything you can to accommodate that customer if it's within your business parameters. I, you know, I rent saunas. If a customer comes to me and says, Hey, it'd be really great if you could rent me a pickup truck. I'm like, Yeah, that's not that's not my business. That's not what I do. Can I take that sauna off that trailer and use the trailer? That no, yeah. Yeah. You I'm gonna rent the sauna. Can I can I hook the sauna up and take it on a family trip with me on a road trip? No, that's right there in my it's actually online in the waiver. It says customers will not be allowed to relocate the sauna. It's it's a thing.
SPEAKER_01:It's an insurance thing. It's right. It's a liability thing.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah, it's a liability thing. I'm not gonna have people pull it down the road. I don't know what kind of experience they have pulling trailers. I don't know if they're gonna try to hook it up to a Subaru outback and bottom out their back suspension and then sue me because their car broke. Like, right. So, yes, the customer is always right when it's within the business parameters. If anything is out of this world, then no, the customer's not always right. It's again, that like you said, balance. It's led right into that. It's it's a balance of both. You have to respect the customer's opinions, too. Like you can't be a business owner and have somebody complain to you and be like, oh, you're just being a little whanny. You know, no, no, like, yeah, okay, I understand. I understand. Is there anything I can do that that will help this right now? Yeah, I can give you 50% off your next rental. Okay, yeah, that works for me. I'll go ahead. Or if it's like something that is not a reasonable accommodation, then it's like, you know, I I hear you, and I'm really sorry you had that experience. Unfortunately, we we can't really that's not something that we can improve or fix at the moment. So unfortunately, that is just how it is. And I get talking like that from our employment at that major airline call center because it was that is what taught me how to disappoint people. Yeah, yeah. I it it was I'm sorry, we're gonna have to charge you that$200 change fee because it's a voluntary change and you don't have a changeable ticket.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you can keep your ticket that you have that you purchase that you and I mean. Yep. I'm sorry you missed your flight. I I I'm I'm really sorry about that. But unfortunately, with having to change that, the fare changes and you have a$200 change fee. The total is gonna be yada yada yada. Now, somebody calls you on a Sunday morning when you're supposed to go pick up a sauna. Hey man, you know, our we got a party st we got the party staying for another day and a half. Do you think we could keep it for another day and a half at this price?
SPEAKER_04:If it if I don't have a rental, absolutely. So if it's not already spoken for, a hundred percent you can extend your rental. And I mean there's extremes for and I would honestly I'll probably throw out a deal at you if you wanted to do that because that saves, you know, that save it. You're paying me to keep it longer, and then I don't have to pick it up and you're not gonna give me money by doing that. Right.
SPEAKER_01:So and I I think there's there's definitely industries where this is this type of topic is something that needs to be more talked about, like your retail aspect, your restaurant industry, you know, in those industries, I would have to say the customer isn't always right. If you're gonna be a prick and you're gonna act like an asshole. I was just gonna say in the in the service industries, people I I don't understand the entitlement in the service industry or the restaurant industry or some some some people in those because those people went to work and they're trying to give you a service that you didn't want to do for yourself. And it doesn't give you the right to act like a prick. It doesn't give you a right to act like an asshole and treat them like shit. It just doesn't. Correct. I mean, you don't know what that waitress is going through or the waiter, you don't know what that retail manager is going through or how their day is. I mean, you you just don't like and that you shouldn't think you can treat people like that and have that entitlement that you're always right and you should get everything that you want. Like, that's not how this world works.
SPEAKER_04:I mean, don't get me wrong. I I want everything. And so do I. So do I, but I'm not gonna go. But I'm not gonna treat somebody like shit when it like, you know, I it's like you have to, you just have to just not be so aggro about things. Like you get a cold fucking hamburger, yeah. You can complain about it and say, hey, miss, this this hamburger is cold. Can I get a different one? Or or if you don't want to eat there anymore, could I could I get my money back and and we're just gonna go? And yeah, the waitress, the waitress is gonna be fine with that. It if it's like if she's good or if they are good at their job. If they're good at their job, they're gonna be fine with that, and they're gonna be like, We're really sorry. And you know, and so are you gonna go back to the kitchen door, open up the door, and be like, hey, you're incompetent, you stupid piece of shit. Like, yeah, no, no, it's like people like you said, everybody's going through something. The the more people that realize that, the better we're gonna become as a society, even if they're not going through something, nobody deserves to get treated like that.
SPEAKER_01:Correct. I mean, I I had a recent encounter at a restaurant where my my food wasn't to what I expected it to be. Yeah. And I talked to the waiter, I was like, hey man, this is cold. I'm not gonna eat this. Oh, I'm so sorry. We'll comp this. We'll come. I'm like, nah, man, I just just give me something hot. Yeah. Yeah, I just want hot food. I'm so sorry. I'm not I'm not mad, man. It's busy in here. You're busy, you're running around, you're one of three people wait being waiting tables. I'm not I'm not gonna do that to you. I just want something hot. Well, we'll give it half price. Well, whatever. Whatever, just give me some of that hot. You don't need to pay me. I'm paying you for food still. I just want it hot. Now you get that same interaction, and the customer is that nice, but that waiter or waitress is an asshole to you as a customer. That's the give and take side of that.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Or your food takes another hour to come out and it's cold again. Like, come on, man. Like there's a give and take here. Like, and that happens. That that does happen. Or you you know what? Like Walmart. You're gonna yell at some teenage kid at a register.
SPEAKER_04:More likely that it would be an elderly person.
SPEAKER_01:Well, whatever. You're not wrong. You are correct. You're gonna yell at grandma at aisle six because she's not going fast enough.
SPEAKER_04:She's too slow. Come on, man. I will say I was mad at the one of the checkout people that I experienced recently. I didn't say anything. I didn't I didn't treat the person like a dick, but in my head I was going, Are you fucking kidding me? Oh yeah. I have those moments daily almost. I had eight totes. Totes McGotes. Walmart or Menard's is terrible. I had eight totes. They're bad. And then I had 12 of those three-panel lights. And this person they they counted the totes, which I was fine with, right? Verify how many I have. You can't take a customer's word because there might be one extra or one fewer. Anyway, counts the totes. And then I like one light is all they needed to scan, and then they could have just scanned it 12 times. No, every single light out of the box. Scan, scan, scan, scan, scan, scan.
SPEAKER_01:And your ADD brain is going fucking nuts.
SPEAKER_04:Because I was I was not like trying to be slow or anything. I was in a hurry. What was I doing that day? I was in a hurry to get home and then go let my parents' dogs out and then come back home again because I was I'm in the middle of a midlife organization crisis. The garage is mostly done. And now the shop is mostly done. So living with ADD, chances are they're going to just stay mostly done for perpetuity forever. It's never going to be done done. It'll just be mostly done. Alright, let's move on.
SPEAKER_01:We're I just I don't know. I I struggle with stuff like that. So we're gonna move on. I could too, but I really could too.
SPEAKER_04:It's late and we need to do our tournament.
SPEAKER_01:We're doing it right now. We're gonna I'm gonna have you pick between best Disney Pixar movie or movies that made one billion dollars.
SPEAKER_04:Let's do the billion dollar one. Okay. I feel like I would really enjoy the Disney Pixar one, but I want to get this billion dollar one out of the way so we can do different ones. Okay. Next next episode.
SPEAKER_01:So these movies made a gross of one billion dollars worldwide. Ew, that's gross. Gross. So first up, and it does one side of the bracket, just so you remember, it does one side of the bracket all the way to the final, then it does the other side of the bracket all the way to the final, and then we have the final two. Yep. So first two movies up are Avatar. The blue people Avatar. Yes. And not the airbenders. Correct. And Titanic. Oh. Those are two bangers. I mean, this is gonna be a lot of movies that well, yeah. They made a billion dollars. They made a billion dollars.
SPEAKER_04:Those are two bangers.
SPEAKER_01:Now I mean the first titty I ever saw in a movie, I think, was Titanic. Rose.
SPEAKER_06:So so good.
SPEAKER_01:Good movie. Spoiled the ending. Do you know they made a Titanic too?
unknown:Rose.
SPEAKER_00:Jack! Come back! Come back!
unknown:Come back!
SPEAKER_01:I mean, Avatar was visually unbelievable. The Navi. The Navi. Night. I'm a big Sigourney Weaver fan. I am too. I like her a lot. And Sam Worthington was really good. He did he was. Zoe. Oh, Salana. She's hot. She was in a lot of big movies in that era. So we're a man. I'm split.
SPEAKER_04:I could argue either way. I could too.
SPEAKER_01:Because I'm I'm Okay, so I I go home and there's two movies in front of me. Am I gonna watch Avatar or am I gonna watch The Titanic? Like which one for me?
SPEAKER_04:I'm probably watching Titanic, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01:Do you know why I'm watching Titanic? And the thing that puts it over the top for me is the soundtrack. The music. The music is good.
SPEAKER_04:For me, it's Billy Zane. I I don't I don't Billy Zane. Fuck that guy.
SPEAKER_01:I I just don't I think the I really like and James Cameron. I think he did both. Actually.
SPEAKER_04:You know, it's been a yeah, he did. It's been a hot minute since I seen Avatar. Since I have seen Avatar, don't ever let me say that like I did. It's been a minute since I've seen Avatar, and I bet if I watched it right now, I would easily fall back in love with it. Oh yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01:I'm picking Titanic.
SPEAKER_04:But yeah, like I said, if if I'm coming home, I need to burn three and a half hours. Yeah, I'm watching Titanic.
SPEAKER_01:Nah, next two are Captain America Civil War or Captain Marvel. Oh, you have to go with America. I liked Civil War. That's probably my favorite one out of all those.
SPEAKER_02:Captain Marvel.
SPEAKER_01:These are the non-animated ones. The Lion King or Aladdin? Aladdin for me.
SPEAKER_04:The live action? Yeah. Really? I have never seen the live action Lion King. I'm not I'm not big on the live action remakes of Disney movies. I'm I'm original. Yes, I am in a purist when it comes to Disney movies. And I I it I really enjoyed Beauty and the Beast live action. Lilo and Stitch was really good. Really enjoyed Beauty and the Beast. I would watch Lilo and Stitch, watched Aladdin, and if you put it by itself, not comparing it to the cartoon, it was good. I don't want to watch The Lion King re live action.
SPEAKER_01:I was more disappointed in the Lion King one than I was the Aladdin one.
SPEAKER_04:That's what I'm afraid of, and that's why I will not watch The Lion King in real life because it was such a good movie. And I don't want it to be tainted.
SPEAKER_01:See, that's why I don't know if what's good we do the Pixar Disney bracket. I already know what's gonna win for me. Next two are Harry Potter, Deathly Hollows, part two, or The Hobbit. Harry Potter, Harry Potter, Harry Potter. Death Yeah. Well, so that was the final installment. That was the last Harry Potter movie. And this is the first Well, the Hobbit was the original The Hobbit, the first Hobbit movie.
SPEAKER_04:The first of the three. Yes. Which I'm I think you know, Lord of the Rings, big fan. Hobbit loves.
SPEAKER_01:I like Hobbits. I love the Hobbit movies more than I like the Lord of the Rings movies. But I like the book also. Like I think that's what put it over the top for me. In a book. In a book. If it's me picking this.
SPEAKER_04:We can go with the Hobbit on that one. We we can. I mean, I mean, if you're talking franchises, I would probably vote Harry Potter, but The Hobbit.
SPEAKER_01:Here's what I was gonna get back to is this is my second favorite Harry Potter movie.
SPEAKER_04:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:So I would pick Harry Potter.
SPEAKER_04:What's your first Goblet of Fire? The first one. Oh, Sorcerer's Stone. Yep. I like Goblet of Fire a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Goblet of Fire was good. Yeah. That's the one where Cedric dies. Yes. Yep.
SPEAKER_04:Spoiler alert. That's a good one. It's 20 years old, but if you haven't seen it, I'm sorry. So I I would probably pick Harry Potter here, personally.
SPEAKER_05:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Next one. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh boy. Star Wars Phantom Menace Episode 1. Star Wars Last Jedi. I liked episode one. I did too. That's what we're going with. Yep. Jurassic Park or Jurassic World. So Jurassic World was the first one with Chris Pratt. Chris Pratt.
SPEAKER_04:For me, it's Jurassic Park. Oh, easily. I mean, I watched it in theaters when I was like a toddler. 1993 it came out.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Yeah. Great movie. I just watched the newest one. Pretty good.
SPEAKER_04:I need to watch. I still haven't seen Dominion yet.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. You're not missing anything. It's got it the nostalgia though. No, it's true. It's got Dr. Grant. Yeah. Grant and Jeff Goldboom's in it. Yeah. It's got everybody.
SPEAKER_04:I want that nostalgia.
SPEAKER_01:Next one. 007, so James Bond, Skyfall. Skyfall. Or the live action Beauty and the Beast. Beauty and the Beast for me. Skyfall was good, but I didn't like it. Beauty and the Beast. Beauty and the Beast is amazing. It was the only other than Lilo and Stitch, it's my favorite one. So now next to are Star Wars Rogue One, a Star Wars story, or Aquaman.
SPEAKER_04:I gotta go with Rogue One on that one. I liked that. I liked that one. Me too. It was a good show.
SPEAKER_01:Next one is Avengers Infinity War and Inf the second one.
SPEAKER_02:Infinity.
SPEAKER_01:Infinity Songs. Whatever the second part of that was. So you really can't go wrong with either one of them.
SPEAKER_04:Tst tst you ever listened to DJ Dark Zone? Yeah. Infinity in your hands.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know which it's an Avengers movie. Just pick. I'm picking one. It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_04:It's not gonna make the finals.
SPEAKER_01:No. Ooh. Transformers Age of Extinction. So that's the one with Mark Wahlberg.
SPEAKER_04:I am Optimus Prime.
SPEAKER_01:And uh and that's against Transformers Dark Side of the Moon. The first one. Age of Extinction? Sure. Did you ever see it?
SPEAKER_04:I'm pretty sure I did. Oh wait, that's the dinosaur one? No. No, what's the dinosaur one?
SPEAKER_01:That's the newest one. That's the Beasts one. I already clicked on it. It doesn't matter. Alice in Wonderland live action, which was actually pretty good. That's what Johnny Depp is the Mad Hatter. Yes. Or the Black Panther.
SPEAKER_02:That's a tough one. They're No, it isn't. It's not talking. Okay, fine, Johnny Depp. No, it's a Black Panther. Black Panther, fine. Whatever.
SPEAKER_01:Titanic or Captain America Civil War. That's the one where Civil War is the one where Tony Stark figures out that Winter Soldier killed his parents. Very good. Very good. However. Titanic. Titanic. I can agree with that. Live action Aladdin or Harry Potter Deathly Hollows Part 2.
SPEAKER_02:Harry Potter. For me. Me too.
SPEAKER_01:Star Wars Episode 1, Phantom Menace, or Jurassic Park? Jurassic Park for me. I have to do Jurassic Park. The music, the movie.
SPEAKER_00:Joanna. Shoot her! Shoot her.
SPEAKER_01:Clever girl. A live action, Beauty and the Beast, or Rogue One, a Star Wars story.
SPEAKER_04:Well, for me personally, I'm watching Beauty and the Beast more than I'm watching Rogue One. I am too.
SPEAKER_01:I fall asleep every time, honestly. Avengers Infinity War or Transformers Age of Extinction.
SPEAKER_04:Probably giving it to Avengers on that one.
SPEAKER_01:I am too.
SPEAKER_02:Titanic. Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Jurassic Park or live action Beauty and the Beast. Jurassic Park.
SPEAKER_02:Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01:Avengers, Infinity War, or Black Panther? My Black Panther was phenomenal. The reason I liked it the most, or why I liked it so much, is because of Killmonger, because of Michael B. Jordan. That is why I like that movie so much. Chadwick Bozeman was amazing.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:But Michael B. Jordan is a phenomenal bad guy. Titanic or Jurassic Park? This is this is tough.
SPEAKER_03:That is very difficult. For me, it's Jurassic Park.
SPEAKER_01:If I had to sit down and those two movies were in front of me, it'd for me it's Jurassic Park. Every time every time. Jurassic Park or Black Panther. This is the final four. This would be in the final four. I'm still Jurassic Park. I'm still picking Jurassic Park. I can just have almost every day. Yeah. So this is the other side of the bracket now. So we're on the other side. Other movies that made one billion dollars worldwide.
SPEAKER_02:One billion dollars.
SPEAKER_01:Incredibles too, which is a phenomenal fucking movie. Or Joaquin Phoenix's Joker.
SPEAKER_04:Incredibles.
SPEAKER_01:Two completely different movies and two completely different. Mustard.
SPEAKER_04:I smell mustard. I'm going Incredibles.
SPEAKER_01:I did you watch Joker? Yes, I did. I'm gonna go Incredibles too, but I'm gonna touch on this quick. That movie gave me stomach aches. Like I I think I've watched it twice and it was phenomenal. It is very good. Um while Keen Phoenix was crazy good in that movie. Yes, he was. Uh next to The Dark Knight with Heath Ledger or Zootopia. The Dark Knight. That that is not a contest. I don't think so either. Next two, Finding Dory or Frozen Two.
SPEAKER_04:What are the no I I'm abstaining from voting on that one. I'm gonna take Frozen Two because if it was Nemo, Nemo has got it all easily. Easily.
SPEAKER_01:Next two, Iron Man 3 or Spider-Man Far from Home. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER_04:Who is putting these there? Iron Man 3 for me.
SPEAKER_01:I I can I can vote that. I yeah.
SPEAKER_04:I like the original Iron Man movies. I like that. I like all three of them.
unknown:What the fuck?
SPEAKER_01:Minions or Despicable Me 3. See, that's ridiculous. They're the same movie. Pretty much, yes. Just pick one. I'm doing minions. I like the minion movie.
SPEAKER_00:What the f Okay.
SPEAKER_01:Star Wars, the rise of Skywalker. Star Wars, the Force Awakens. So I'm pretty sure Force Awakens is the first one of the Ray series. It is. And the Rise of Skywalker is the second one. Yes. Because The Last Jedi was the third one. The third one, yeah. I like The Force Awakens. I thought that was good. We're gonna go with that one? Yep. Okay. I already know which one you're gonna pick on this too. Lord of the Rings, The Return of the King, or Pirates of the Caribbean, Dead Man's Chest. Return of the King. Dead Man's Chest is really good. It's it's it put up a good showing. So next to Avengers, Age of Ultron. So the second Avengers movie. Pirates of the Caribbean on Stranger Tides. Now that's the one with Penelope Cruz and Ian. I don't remember his last name.
unknown:I like Penelope.
SPEAKER_01:I do too, but Age of Ultrons is a way better movie. I was just that that's the worst Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Penelope Cruz. That's the one where it's all fucked up, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, not not fucked up, but it's it's like it's the fourth one where it's like it's almost brand new people. Like Will's not in it. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Barbosa is like a commander in the Royal Navy fleet. Yeah, it's shit. It's like I said, it's all fucked up.
SPEAKER_04:I don't like it. It's not a pirates movie. It's not good.
SPEAKER_01:Next two movies, Toy Story 4 or Toy Story 3. Toy Story 3. I agree. Next two movies The Fate of the Furious. So Fast and Furious, Fate of the Furious. Got it. Okay. That's the one. I don't know. I don't know exactly. They all blend together. Or Furious 7.
SPEAKER_04:What what is this?
SPEAKER_01:Seven for me. I seven was good. I liked seven. Yeah, they're all the same. Incredibles two or the dark knight? Dark Knight. Thank you. Frozen two or Iron Man 3. Iron Man 3. Okay. I can read that. Minions or the Force Awakens. The Force Awakens. Yep. Return of the King or Age of Ultron.
SPEAKER_04:I'm saying Return of the King.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. I I okay. Just based on based on nostalgia. I'll just go with that. Toy Story 3 or Furious 7? Furious 7. Really? Yeah. Okay. Dark Knight or Iron Man 3? Dark Knight. Thank you. Force Awakens or Return of the King? Return of the King. Okay. I don't 100% agree with that, but we'll go with it. Dark Knight or Return of the King? Dark Knight. Thank you. Lane's gonna hate me for that, but Dark Knight. So I believe this is the f other half of our final four. Dark Knight or Furious Seven? Dark Knight. Okay. Now, this is the finals. So just to recap, our final four on the other side, what or the final two on the other side were uh Black Panther and Jurassic Park. Remember that Tony and I were both born either in the 90s or in the late 80s, so we grew up on some pretty good movies. Jurassic Park has a special place in both of our cinematic hearts. I can probably recite most of the movie. Must drive faster. Must drive faster. And I could sit down and watch Jurassic Park almost every single day. Now, on the other side of this bracket, the final two movies were The Dark Knight and Furious Seven snuck in there somehow. I don't know how much I really agree with this list, but we're just gonna go with it anyway. In my opinion, the Dark Knight is one of the most perfect pieces of cinematography ever. I think it's beautiful. I think it's one of the best movies ever created. I think it is the best, you could call it superhero movies, I guess. Definitely the best DC movie. I just I don't find one single flaw in the entire thing. The only thing I think Jurassic Park has on the Dark Knight is the soundtrack or the music score. Even though the Dark Knights score was phenomenal. It was.
SPEAKER_04:I agree.
SPEAKER_01:Nothing against Jurassic Park because Jurassic Park was so far ahead of its time when it was made. And I believe it was 1993. You people can fact check me. To be able to put dinosaurs in a movie the way that Spielberg did was uh nice push. Sorry. It was a feat in itself. The acting in the movie was fantastic, the music, the setting, uh everything about Jurassic Park was phenomenal for the for 1993. The animatronics phenomenal animatronic animatronics were not even really a thing then. But it's definitely uh the Dark Knight. Heath Ledger's best movie, Christian Bale's best movie. Oh yeah. Probably a top three, if not the best Christopher Nolan movie. And he's a he's a really good director. So uh so like we said, finals were Jurassic Park and the Dark Knight, uh Dark Knight taken it home for movies that made one billion dollars worldwide. Billion dollars. So take that to the bank, take that, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
SPEAKER_04:Put it in your pipe and smoke it.
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